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cmay227 on 16 November 2017
DonFerrari said:
cmay227 said:

Not part of the development team, but close enough to state it was finalized many months before the X was announced. 

So they finished the X1X even before first announcement and took additional 18 months to release because of reasons?

Please provide your credentials.

Specs being finalized is far from Console being finished.  Don't believe me, don't really care.  



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DonFerrari on 16 November 2017
cmay227 said:
DonFerrari said:

Sorry to tell you, but even X1 original changed specs from as little as 6 months because of the announcement of PS4, they increase clockrate of processor after announcing the X1. So 1,5 years is enough to up some portions of the console.

Processor speed is variable. not set in stone. processor speed does not separate a Pro/X. Stop trying to split hairs. 

And Sony doubling the RAM in couple months before announcement and launching 6 months later is also the same right? You have no way to warranty that nothing changed because of PS4Pro announcement.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 16 November 2017
cmay227 said:
DonFerrari said:

So they finished the X1X even before first announcement and took additional 18 months to release because of reasons?

Please provide your credentials.

Specs being finalized is far from Console being finished.  Don't believe me, don't really care.  

Yes they aren't the same, but you are the one claiming the specs were finalized and they had to wait for like 2 years before being able to launch.

And I have a hard time with people claiming to have privileged information but being unable to provide credentials...

CGI per example we know is a dev (I don't know from where) and we know that because of the knowledge he exhibits and the things he post not because he say he is.

Last edited by DonFerrari - on 16 November 2017

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Jigsawx1 on 16 November 2017
DonFerrari said:
cmay227 said:

Specs being finalized is far from Console being finished.  Don't believe me, don't really care.  

Yes they aren't the same, but you are the one claiming the specs were finalized and they had to wait for like 2 years before being able to launch.

So you are really meaning that the X1X didn`t was announced as a 6 TF Machine @E3 2016?

I mean how much they changed when it was announced with 6Tf and came out with 6TF?



DonFerrari on 16 November 2017
Jigsawx1 said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes they aren't the same, but you are the one claiming the specs were finalized and they had to wait for like 2 years before being able to launch.

So you are really meaning that the X1X didn`t was announced as a 6 TF Machine @E3 2016?

I mean how much they changed when it was announced with 6Tf and came out with 6TF?

was te gpu the sole thing announced?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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flashfire926 on 16 November 2017

OP, if you plan to make any positively oriented xbox thread, DON'T expect it to NOT turn into shit. You'd be dissapointed.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

Jigsawx1 on 16 November 2017
DonFerrari said:
Jigsawx1 said:

So you are really meaning that the X1X didn`t was announced as a 6 TF Machine @E3 2016?

I mean how much they changed when it was announced with 6Tf and came out with 6TF?

was te gpu the sole thing announced?

The whole system has got 6tf and that is what it was announced 1 1/2 year ago................



DonFerrari on 16 November 2017
flashfire926 said:
OP, if you plan to make any positively oriented xbox thread, DON'T expect it to NOT turn into shit. You'd be dissapointed.

Start the thread by attacking PS4 should be an indicator that the thread would get heated answers. But don't let truth get in the way of your narrative.

Jigsawx1 said:
DonFerrari said:

was te gpu the sole thing announced?

The whole system has got 6tf and that is what it was announced 1 1/2 year ago................

6Tflops is just the GPU, last I heard a console is more than it. And there is more than several ways to reach a specific target.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

flashfire926 on 16 November 2017
CGI-Quality said:
flashfire926 said:
OP, if you plan to make any positively oriented xbox thread, DON'T expect it to NOT turn into shit. You'd be dissapointed.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=232764&page=1#

Hasn't "turned to shit". I wouldn't say this one is bad, either. Just the usual clashing of opinions.

Well, if you've failed to notice, it's always the same exact people who try excessively hard to downplay anything positive about Xbox. If you fail to actually notice that, It's not my fault.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

LivingMetal on 16 November 2017
cmay227 said:
LivingMetal said:

So are you implying that you work for Microsoft or had some hand in the development of the X?

Do not work for MS, but yes my company had input on specs and what we would like to see. We were notified when final specs were determined. and many companies were asked for input, and i would suspect were notified as well when specs we finalized.

Now, that in and of itself is cool, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.  But now that you've revealed the above, you cannot deny that my principle still stands.  We know what the Xbox One X can currently do now that it's out.  But you of all people should know that hardware must be optimized by software.  So even if specs were finalized and  now that Microsoft knew what the Pro can do after the Pro launch, they knew that they were up against.  This gave them an advantage so they have to make sure their product delivered more than the competition.  I cannot phantom why anyone would think this is a bad thing that would lead someone to think I was downplaying the X.  There really shouldn't be any argument here.