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LivingMetal said:
cmay227 said:

Yes and you honestly think that in that short of time they changed from the original vision? It did not happen. FACT. Specs were finalized by that time.

Ummm... Do you honestly believe everything Microsoft says, or were you part of that development team who was privy to such info?

That makes no sense. If MS were to react to the PS4 Pro announcement, then why would they go for a 500$ price point? 



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LivingMetal said:
cmay227 said:

Yes and you honestly think that in that short of time they changed from the original vision? It did not happen. FACT. Specs were finalized by that time.

Ummm... Do you honestly believe everything Microsoft says, or were you part of that development team who was privy to such info?

Not part of the development team, but close enough to state it was finalized many months before the X was announced. 



CGI-Quality said:
Jigsawx1 said: 

The ps3 was the weaker console.........

Spec-for-spec, overall, the PS3 was the stronger console. This was best explained, as it always will be, by the exclusives between the two systems. 

OT: I really can't hand much of that OP to them, but then, as a PC gamer, it's a little more difficult. Most of those things have been available to me for a few years, now. However, as an X owner, I do have some gripes, and they mainly reside with just wanting more exclusive content. Not necessarily "X" exclusives, but Xbox One-Only games that I can then see pushed on the platform. That is where it will remain weak.

Other than that, if power is what people seek, and can't/don't want to join the PC Family, there's not a better option than Xbox One X.

so in reallity the 360 had the better graphics card, more memory (ram) 512mb ddr 3 +10mb ed ram and the cell cpu was garbage because nobody ever used more then 4 cores......



Kaneman! said:
LivingMetal said:

Ummm... Do you honestly believe everything Microsoft says, or were you part of that development team who was privy to such info?

That makes no sense. If MS were to react to the PS4 Pro announcement, then why would they go for a 500$ price point? 

Why not?  I don't think $500 is a bad price for what it is.  If I were to speculate, more powerful hardware usually comes at a higher monetary price while trying to please the stockholders.  Again, just speculating.



cmay227 said:
LivingMetal said:

Ummm... Do you honestly believe everything Microsoft says, or were you part of that development team who was privy to such info?

Not part of the development team, but close enough to state it was finalized many months before the X was announced. 

So are you implying that you work for Microsoft or had some hand in the development of the X?



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1 - for me 60 USD in a controller is already enough rip-off.
2- in Brazil there isn't a single 4k BD at sale since ever
3 -all games have a PS4Pro boost mode since some patches ago and with my 4k tv I don't care about Super Sampling to 1080p
4 - Yep more powerfull but still will be few native 4k, but of course X1X will hit it more consistently.
5 - Yes it was a good design and made the system cost even more with the solutions to keep it cool, while PS4P gone the easy route of just doubling and folding the system. Will probably see a PS4 and PS4P slimmer than now sometime in the future.
6 - free sync? Talking about powering on the TV or V-sync? There is nothing free, it either have additional chip that PS doesn't and as such doesn't draw from the system or it's using some of the extra power for it.



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Kaneman! said:
LivingMetal said:

Ummm... Do you honestly believe everything Microsoft says, or were you part of that development team who was privy to such info?

That makes no sense. If MS were to react to the PS4 Pro announcement, then why would they go for a 500$ price point? 

i think the ps4pro was a reaction on the XOneX because of that there was a so low advertising which ends in low release sales.



Gotta give it to them...They’d definitely know how to embarrass their early customers. 



LivingMetal said:
Kaneman! said:

That makes no sense. If MS were to react to the PS4 Pro announcement, then why would they go for a 500$ price point? 

Why not?  I don't think $500 is a bad price for what it is.  If I were to speculate, more powerful hardware usually comes at a higher monetary price while trying to please the stockholders.  Again, just speculating.

It's not a bad price for what it is, but it is a bad price compared to the Pro. If they had built their system on the back of the Pro unveiling, they certainly wouldn't go for a way higher price point than the Pro had one year earlier. Phil Spencer's talk about it being a "premium product" is just the defense of that high price point in comparison to the cheaper Pro.



Jigsawx1 said:
Kaneman! said:

That makes no sense. If MS were to react to the PS4 Pro announcement, then why would they go for a 500$ price point? 

i think the ps4pro was a reaction on the XOneX because of that there was a so low advertising which ends in low release sales.

It was the other way around, obviously. Rumours that Pro was to be announced started over half a year before Scorpio was announced. The whole presentation at E3 just clearly showed they didn’t have anything to show yet. It was MS’s reaction, not the other way around.