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Farsala on 13 November 2017
MajorMalfunction said:
m0ney said:

If you could get 1060 that would be huge gain, it is 60% more powerful than 960 and can run all games on max at 1080p. I regret not upgrading before the mining craze started. I have 960 2gb, it plays all games fine on High to Very High. Now I'm playing Batman Arkham Origins on max, except the Nvidia Physics setting is to Medium, the game looks glorious and average framerate is around 50.

@Farsala Go 16 GB. If you have a game running while, say you were browsing VGchartz, your system will need more than 8 GB of RAM, and system requirements are only going to go up. If you build, you can get a 7600K and 16 GB of RAM and a decent motherboard for 800 CAD. I don't know where you live, so prices may vary. Do you have a PSU/Case? If you do, building is a much better, cheaper offer, esp if you live in the States. Computer parts are generally much cheaper there. I looked it up, and the GTX 1060 is $249 USD. The Intel i5 is also $249, an ASUS Z270-A (MB I got) is only $179 and 16 GB of 2400 RAM is about $190. What's your budget? I got $870 between all the components I mentioned. If it doesn't have to be a laptop, you can get a much better desktop for the same price.

After pages of convincing, I am leaning more to 1060 and 8gb RAM > 1050 and 16gb RAM.

When my 6 year old laptop was fresh I could easily do Vgchartz and game at the same time with a pathetic 460m.

I feel like the 1060 upgrade alone will make all the difference at this point.

As for your numbers you get $870 but that is without OS and SSD or HDD, and I assume other things like cooling and PSU.

I can get this laptop for $855:

Processor

  • 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-7300HQ Quad Core (6MB Cache, up to 3.5 GHz)

Memory

  • 8GB, DDR4, 2400MHz; up to 32GB (additional memory sold separately)

Hard Drive

  • 256GB Solid State Drive

Video Card

  • NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 with 6GB GDDR5 graphics memory

Display

  • 15.6-inch FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS Anti-Glare LED-Backlit Display

Windows 10 and PSU. As is noted in the Memory part, it seems it would be easy to upgrade to 16GB or even 32GB in the future. It is looking like the best deal for me atm, my budget was going to be $700 but people insisted on the 1060 so this is the next cheapest with 1060.



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MajorMalfunction on 13 November 2017
Farsala said:
MajorMalfunction said:

@Farsala Go 16 GB. If you have a game running while, say you were browsing VGchartz, your system will need more than 8 GB of RAM, and system requirements are only going to go up. If you build, you can get a 7600K and 16 GB of RAM and a decent motherboard for 800 CAD. I don't know where you live, so prices may vary. Do you have a PSU/Case? If you do, building is a much better, cheaper offer, esp if you live in the States. Computer parts are generally much cheaper there. I looked it up, and the GTX 1060 is $249 USD. The Intel i5 is also $249, an ASUS Z270-A (MB I got) is only $179 and 16 GB of 2400 RAM is about $190. What's your budget? I got $870 between all the components I mentioned. If it doesn't have to be a laptop, you can get a much better desktop for the same price.

After pages of convincing, I am leaning more to 1060 and 8gb RAM > 1050 and 16gb RAM.

When my 6 year old laptop was fresh I could easily do Vgchartz and game at the same time with a pathetic 460m.

I feel like the 1060 upgrade alone will make all the difference at this point.

As for your numbers you get $870 but that is without OS and SSD or HDD, and I assume other things like cooling and PSU.

I can get this laptop for $855:

Processor

  • 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-7300HQ Quad Core (6MB Cache, up to 3.5 GHz)

Memory

  • 8GB, DDR4, 2400MHz; up to 32GB (additional memory sold separately)

Hard Drive

  • 256GB Solid State Drive

Video Card

  • NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 with 6GB GDDR5 graphics memory

Display

  • 15.6-inch FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS Anti-Glare LED-Backlit Display

Windows 10 and PSU. As is noted in the Memory part, it seems it would be easy to upgrade to 16GB or even 32GB in the future. It is looking like the best deal for me atm, my budget was going to be $700 but people insisted on the 1060 so this is the next cheapest with 1060.

I'd go with that then. Getting a good PSU cost me $140 CAD. I got my copy of Windows 10 by other means. One thing to add is a hard drive. That's another $80-$100. The only bad thing about laptops is that they need special memory and generally have poorer cooling than a desktop and don't do multiple HDDs usually. If you're interested, a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is $30 USD. It's the best cooler in it's price bracket. One last thing: The 7600K is a 3.8 GHz CPU at stock frequency and can be overclock to 4.5 GHz easily, and the 212 EVO is enough cooling for it. The 1060 is a damn good card though. Hopefully they didn't neuter it in making it a mobile chip. The only thing that will bite you is that laptops generally aren't upgradable besides RAM and sometimes HDD. What I like about having a good desktop is that I can sell parts once it's time to upgrade. If I didn't already give my cousin my old 650W Corsair PSU and CM HAF 922 Case, I'd give it to you.



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Pemalite on 14 November 2017
Farsala said:

After pages of convincing, I am leaning more to 1060 and 8gb RAM > 1050 and 16gb RAM.

Do it.
You can upgrade your ram super easily later on in most instances. (Some notebooks solder the Ram to the motherboard, so double check.)
But upgrading the GPU can be an expensive and tiring exercise.

The 1060 will give your system a longer life.



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Kerozinn on 14 November 2017

wait ur going for a laptop with 8gig? i would understand for a desktop where you put another 8gigs in.
and yeah dont go anything under a 1060 6gb.



Farsala on 14 November 2017
Kerozinn said:
wait ur going for a laptop with 8gig? i would understand for a desktop where you put another 8gigs in.
and yeah dont go anything under a 1060 6gb.

The laptop I selected says it is upgradeable to 32gb RAM.



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Farsala on 14 November 2017

So I ended up buying the computer because I wanted it to ship by Friday. Originally it was a $1000 computer before tax but with all the discounts I managed to get it to $830 before tax.

As for the 1060 6gb, it is a little confusing. But according to some sites it is 3.85Tflop to 4.4Tflop. Only I have the laptop version, and they say it is 1%-16% slower then the desktop version at like 3.5Tflop at the lowest. Which isn't too bad for a laptop.

Either way it appears that I can play any current game on ultra. (but not MAX/4k) Also 10x better at least than my first choice of a $700 computer.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 14 November 2017

Congrats!



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Pemalite on 15 November 2017
Farsala said:
So I ended up buying the computer because I wanted it to ship by Friday. Originally it was a $1000 computer before tax but with all the discounts I managed to get it to $830 before tax.

As for the 1060 6gb, it is a little confusing. But according to some sites it is 3.85Tflop to 4.4Tflop. Only I have the laptop version, and they say it is 1%-16% slower then the desktop version at like 3.5Tflop at the lowest. Which isn't too bad for a laptop.

Either way it appears that I can play any current game on ultra. (but not MAX/4k) Also 10x better at least than my first choice of a $700 computer.

Don't concern yourself to much with flops, people place way to much importance on such numbers.

The thing about the flop numbers is that some outlets will calculate the flops based around the base speed whilst others will base it around the boost speeds... And would thus perform identical in the real world. (Marketing at it's best.)

And welcome to the PC gaming master race. May all your games be good ones.



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Kerozinn on 15 November 2017
Farsala said:
As for the 1060 6gb, it is a little confusing. But according to some sites it is 3.85Tflop to 4.4Tflop. Only I have the laptop version, and they say it is 1%-16% slower then the desktop version at like 3.5Tflop at the lowest. Which isn't too bad for a laptop.

for comparison between 1060 and 1060m check this link 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1060-Laptop-Benchmarks-and-Specs.169547.0.html



darkrulier on 15 November 2017
Farsala said:
McDonaldsGuy said:

Man I remember when 8GB of RAM was a huge deal.... back in 2003 (PowerMac G5).

I feel like we haven't advanced computers at all in the past 10 years. We should be at 512GB by now.

16GB is better, but the speed of the ram is just as important. IMO I'd go for 32GB of RAM.

What's a decent memory speed?

McDonaldsGuy, your statement is incorrect, speed in RAM is not as important, you only get marginal benefits from faster RAM or XMP overclocked RAM's. This to me is another marketing thing from manufacturers to make us pay more. If you don't believe me just check this Linus video explaining it with benchmarks.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Yt4vSZKVk