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16 GB might not be worth it for gaming in most cases yet, but it will be. RAM is cheap and probably won't become much cheaper soon, so might as well get the extra.



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I've been thinking about doubling up myself lately but don't wanna overpay. The same RAM I bought last year for $30 costs $70, now. 8GB of DDR4 (+6GB GDDR5) has been fine for 1080p thus far, though.



TallSilhouette said:

I've been thinking about doubling up myself lately but don't wanna overpay. The same RAM I bought last year for $30 costs $70, now. 8GB of DDR4 (+6GB GDDR5) has been fine for 1080p thus far, though.

Ram prices are currently inflated. Bad time to be buying Ram.

Farsala said:

What's a decent memory speed?

Depends on a multitude of factors.
Ryzen's sweet spot is 3200MHZ kits.
Intel you could get away with lower 2666mhz memory.

If you are really pinching pennies 2400mhz memory is the lowest I would go.

Farsala said:

Honestly now that I thought about it more. The computer I am thinking of purchasing has the option to slot 2 16GB RAM into it so I really think 8gb to start is the best course of action.

Also I am looking for cheapness.

My rig will use 7GB of Ram on idle just sitting at the desktop.
Sure, windows will free up memory if the need arises... But why should it?

16GB of Ram is the mid-range sweet spot right now, some games will benefit greatly from it, most will not.

The main issue with 8GB of Ram is that despite the majority of games being happy with it... Once you start loading up apps like uTorrent, Winamp, Skype, Blizzard Launcher, Steam, Origin, uPlay, Browser, Virus Scanner, Drivers and more in the background... Then you will notice your system paging to disk more and more often, which means things like alt-tabbing, loading and sometimes even framerates can take a dive.

Some games will also introduce "hitching" as it runs out of available working Ram too.

If you wish to save a few bucks now with the potential of spending a few bucks later, going with 8GB of Ram rather than 16GB then that is fine, just remember to close programs when you are not using them. ;)


Farsala said:

For graphics card it seems to me that NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (4GB GDDR5)>> AMD Radeon RX 550 (4GB GDDR5).

The 1050 Ti is also allot more expensive than the RX 550. ($225 AUD vs $125 AUD here.)

A more apt comparison would be the Radeon RX 560. Which can beat the Geforce 1050 Ti in some games, get close in others, but does still get beaten most of the time, but is also $40 cheaper in AUD ($185.)

Both have a fair bit of overclocking headroom.

I wouldn't recommend either for 1080P gaming though, the GPU is probably the most important component for gaming a step up to the RX 570 or Geforce 1060 would net you much better results in the short and long term.



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Pemalite said:
TallSilhouette said:

I've been thinking about doubling up myself lately but don't wanna overpay. The same RAM I bought last year for $30 costs $70, now. 8GB of DDR4 (+6GB GDDR5) has been fine for 1080p thus far, though.

Ram prices are currently inflated. Bad time to be buying Ram.

Farsala said:

What's a decent memory speed?

Depends on a multitude of factors.
Ryzen's sweet spot is 3200MHZ kits.
Intel you could get away with lower 2666mhz memory.

If you are really pinching pennies 2400mhz memory is the lowest I would go.

Farsala said:

Honestly now that I thought about it more. The computer I am thinking of purchasing has the option to slot 2 16GB RAM into it so I really think 8gb to start is the best course of action.

Also I am looking for cheapness.

My rig will use 7GB of Ram on idle just sitting at the desktop.
Sure, windows will free up memory if the need arises... But why should it?

16GB of Ram is the mid-range sweet spot right now, some games will benefit greatly from it, most will not.

The main issue with 8GB of Ram is that despite the majority of games being happy with it... Once you start loading up apps like uTorrent, Winamp, Skype, Blizzard Launcher, Steam, Origin, uPlay, Browser, Virus Scanner, Drivers and more in the background... Then you will notice your system paging to disk more and more often, which means things like alt-tabbing, loading and sometimes even framerates can take a dive.

Some games will also introduce "hitching" as it runs out of available working Ram too.

If you wish to save a few bucks now with the potential of spending a few bucks later, going with 8GB of Ram rather than 16GB then that is fine, just remember to close programs when you are not using them. ;)


Farsala said:

For graphics card it seems to me that NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (4GB GDDR5)>> AMD Radeon RX 550 (4GB GDDR5).

The 1050 Ti is also allot more expensive than the RX 550. ($225 AUD vs $125 AUD here.)

A more apt comparison would be the Radeon RX 560. Which can beat the Geforce 1050 Ti in some games, get close in others, but does still get beaten most of the time, but is also $40 cheaper in AUD ($185.)

Both have a fair bit of overclocking headroom.

I wouldn't recommend either for 1080P gaming though, the GPU is probably the most important component for gaming a step up to the RX 570 or Geforce 1060 would net you much better results in the short and long term.

2400 is the best I can find for my price range.

I admit it feels bad to not upgrade on RAM as I already have 8gb on my 6 year old computer. But I really don't keep too much open at once anyways.

Problem with 1060 computers over 1050 computers is the $300+ price difference. Being a poor college student atm, I would rather save the $300 for my next upgrade in a few years.

Of course I don't expect perfect graphics and framerate, I just want to play mid tier games smoothly without stressing my computer too much.

 



16 gig is overkill. 8gig ddr3 or ddr4 is all you really need. 6gigs of GGDR5 ram if you can get it on your GPU is much prefered over the 3gig models.



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go for 16, if you don't feel like buying more in ~1-2years.. demands for software will only increase. and the difference in price 8 vs 16 is minimal.
+ more ram = more cache memory.. so things will load faster in general if an application loads/unloads data in RAM periodically (note.. you'll only see this if you load and unload the same data)



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Farsala said:

2400 is the best I can find for my price range.

I admit it feels bad to not upgrade on RAM as I already have 8gb on my 6 year old computer. But I really don't keep too much open at once anyways.

Problem with 1060 computers over 1050 computers is the $300+ price difference. Being a poor college student atm, I would rather save the $300 for my next upgrade in a few years.

Of course I don't expect perfect graphics and framerate, I just want to play mid tier games smoothly without stressing my computer too much.

 

Then go with 8GB DDR4 absolute-cheapest-regardless-of-speed memory and the Geforce 1050Ti and then replace both in a few years, your rig will still be capable, but it will struggle with settings dialed up and it won't last the distance due to rising system requirements. (Some games will already use more than 8GB for itself, they still run fine on systems with 8GB though.)

What kind of CPU are you looking at out of curiosity?



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just depends to be honest on what you're running. If you're using an older operating system and/or overall don't have amazing specs than adding more RAM may or may not be that useful (beyond specific heavy memory using individual apps and games).

In the end you can have all the RAM you want but it won't be that useful in comparison to the graphics card/processor. Also if you're gaming with an accessible PC tower adding RAM is by far the easiest thing to change later

at this point 8GB RAM is basically a requirement for most games and 16GB recommended for many, so to be safe I guess I'd recommend go for 16? but it honestly is hardly the biggest factor on how you're going to run the new games. 8GB would be fine for most things if your other parts are more than adequate for the games you'll be playing 



Pemalite said:
Farsala said:

2400 is the best I can find for my price range.

I admit it feels bad to not upgrade on RAM as I already have 8gb on my 6 year old computer. But I really don't keep too much open at once anyways.

Problem with 1060 computers over 1050 computers is the $300+ price difference. Being a poor college student atm, I would rather save the $300 for my next upgrade in a few years.

Of course I don't expect perfect graphics and framerate, I just want to play mid tier games smoothly without stressing my computer too much.

 

Then go with 8GB DDR4 absolute-cheapest-regardless-of-speed memory and the Geforce 1050Ti and then replace both in a few years, your rig will still be capable, but it will struggle with settings dialed up and it won't last the distance due to rising system requirements. (Some games will already use more than 8GB for itself, they still run fine on systems with 8GB though.)

What kind of CPU are you looking at out of curiosity?

Intel Core i5-7300HQ Processor (6MB Cache, up to 3.50 GHz) or 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ Processor (2.80GHz 6MB).

And as you say earlier it is between the Geforce 1050ti and AMD Radeon RX 560 4GB.

I also found out I might be able to buy certain computers for 10-15% off. But I can't find any decent 1060s other then Dells.



Farsala said:

I made a thread asking for suggestions about half a year ago or more, and it seems that a 1050 2gb Card is definitely worth it over a 960 2gb card. Both seem rather weak to me, but the numbers don't lie with around 96% better performance from the 1050.

Lol where did u get that info? 960 is a bit more powerful than 1050:

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050/3165vs3650

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-960-vs-GeForce-GTX-1050



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