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Do you ever get bothered by unnecessary sexualization?

Most of the time 10 17.54%
 
Only if it's for a chara... 1 1.75%
 
Depends on context and game 25 43.86%
 
Never 21 36.84%
 
Total:57
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
SuperNova said:

 Especially since they're trying to tell this meet cute boy meets girl story and it breaks the tone for me. 

Yeah, I just realized that when you said it. It is very awkward. It would be like if in Gurren Laggan, Simon actually ended up dating Yoko. The genius of Gurren was that it bent your expectations subtly, as an audience of mostly under-aged males everyone expected and wanted Simon to "get the attractive girl", it was because everyone was so conditioned to just expect the shonen protoganist to get the hot chick who with big boobs physically looks a decade older, but she was way more physically and emotionally mature than him and in real life it could never work out. So the show introduced a character that was actually appropriate for Simon , not some big tittied woman to be idiolized. I always hated that Simon never got with Yoko because I thought Yoko was so amazing. Looking back at it though, that's the entire point.

 

God, the Xenoblade creators really need to watch Gurren Laggan. 

Also I was surprised that all men Yoko fell for died shortly after. She had the kiss of death!



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monocle_layton said:
Peh said:
Eh.....are people reducing the quality of the complete game, because of one or some character designs? Judging a book by its cover, huh?

I'm certainly not a fan of echi stuff and fanservices, but this is pretty much harmless.

I'll certainly consider it a reduction in quality, even if it's a miniscule amount. Looking past the looks, the stereotypical nature of said characters and the annoying, one dimensional personalities we've seen as well are issues that stretch beyond subjective opinions of sexualization

Well, the issue is one that you've created just for yourself. 

"Looking past the looks, the stereotypical nature of said characters and the annoying, one dimensional personalities we've seen as well are issues that stretch beyond subjective opinions of sexualization"

It's not like the game is out in order to make a final judgement on certain characters and their personalities. Also, you probably don't get inside the personality of each blade you find or don't find. I surely don't know what you are expecting.   

But clearly, the game is not meant for people like you. Same goes for Platinum Games, Project Zero franchise, most of anime, and Japan culture. What else is there to say? I consider these designs more than harmless and it goes with the surreal setup of the world.  If you don't like nudity or some sort of these stuff then I guess you should also open a thread for Assassins Creed: Origins where the women are walking topless through the streets and you can see dicks on the statues of men. 

SuperNova said:
Peh said:
Eh.....are people reducing the quality of the complete game, because of one or some character designs? Judging a book by its cover, huh?

I'm certainly not a fan of echi stuff and fanservices, but this is pretty much harmless.

I don't think anyone was making statements on the quality of the the whole game based on the designs, but it is an aspect that bugs some, including me.

It's possible to criticize a certain aspect of a game and still like the game overall.

There's a simple fix too, let us change the blades outfits. Everyone gets what they want. People that want overt sexualization can have it and for people that are annoyed by it for whatever reason can avoid it. Everyone gets to play the way they prefer to play.

Look at the quote above yours. 

Oh sure, you are allowed to criticize certain aspects of a game, but so far, the criticism is all that I see too much butt on a random, not important to the plot, character. And that criticism goes so far to avoid playing the game in the first place :/ . Actually, it becomes rather ridiculous to be honest. 

It goes the way of me to say that I don't like the color of the fruit on that particular tree, because I like my fruits to have the shape of an apple and it has to be red. 7.8/10, not enough red apples. 

Or I tell people not buy Harry Potter books because the story is about dark magic. You know who I mean.... 

And in retrospect, that criticism becomes rather stupid and shows that certain people haven't matured enough. Sorry to attack certain people who share this kind of view and criticism, but I don't know how to say it otherwise.  

This whole criticism is subjective and stems from an insecure objection. 

Again, just look at the whole picture and see what game aspects are actually being criticised for and how much they cope with the rest of the actual game. And also do tell me how much do you actually know of the game. 

Last edited by Peh - on 13 November 2017

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I laughed at the character designs.

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I'm not taking any sides here. I'm just curious. To the multitude of ppl saying "its just like anime", what kind of anime are you watching? Because that's not my experience at all o.o

Last time I checked, "skimpy outfits" wasn't in the definition of anime. Not saying it doesn't exist, but by that logic, all media has skimpy outfits. Occasionally, anyways.



Wright said:

I dunno. I don't get bothered by fictionalized sexualization.

This.

To each's own i guess, but i hope people who are bothered by that, are equally or more bothered by real-life sexualization, which is rampant across every form of media to all viewers, indiscriminate of age. I suspect that's not the case though.



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umegames said:
Wright said:

I dunno. I don't get bothered by fictionalized sexualization.

This.

To each's own i guess, but i hope people who are bothered by that, are equally or more bothered by real-life sexualization, which is rampant across every form of media to all viewers, indiscriminate of age. I suspect that's not the case though.

You have no reason to suspect that



Peh said:
monocle_layton said:

I'll certainly consider it a reduction in quality, even if it's a miniscule amount. Looking past the looks, the stereotypical nature of said characters and the annoying, one dimensional personalities we've seen as well are issues that stretch beyond subjective opinions of sexualization

Well, the issue is one that you've created just for yourself. 

"Looking past the looks, the stereotypical nature of said characters and the annoying, one dimensional personalities we've seen as well are issues that stretch beyond subjective opinions of sexualization"

It's not like the game is out in order to make a final judgement on certain characters and their personalities. Also, you probably don't get inside the personality of each blade you find or don't find. I surely don't know what you are expecting.   

But clearly, the game is not meant for people like you. Same goes for Platinum Games, Project Zero franchise, most of anime, and Japan culture. What else is there to say? I consider these designs more than harmless and it goes with the surreal setup of the world.  If you don't like nudity or some sort of these stuff then I guess you should also open a thread for Assassins Creed: Origins where the women are walking topless through the streets and you can see dicks on the statues of men. 

SuperNova said:

I don't think anyone was making statements on the quality of the the whole game based on the designs, but it is an aspect that bugs some, including me.

It's possible to criticize a certain aspect of a game and still like the game overall.

There's a simple fix too, let us change the blades outfits. Everyone gets what they want. People that want overt sexualization can have it and for people that are annoyed by it for whatever reason can avoid it. Everyone gets to play the way they prefer to play.

Look at the quote above yours. 

Oh sure, you are allowed to criticize certain aspects of a game, but so far, the criticism is all that I see too much butt on a random, not important to the plot, character. And that criticism goes so far to avoid playing the game in the first place :/ . Actually, it becomes rather ridiculous to be honest. 

It goes the way of me to say that I don't like the color of the fruit on that particular tree, because I like my fruits to have the shape of an apple and it has to be red. 7.8/10, not enough red apples. 

Or I tell people not buy Harry Potter books because the story is about dark magic. You know who I mean.... 

And in retrospect, that criticism becomes rather stupid and shows that certain people haven't matured enough. Sorry to attack certain people who share this kind of view and criticism, but I don't know how to say it otherwise.  

This whole criticism is subjective and stems from an insecure objection. 

Again, just look at the whole picture and see what game aspects are actually being criticised for and how much they cope with the rest of the actual game. And also do tell me how much do you actually know of the game. 

The thing is however, I criticize animes which use unnecessary sexualization. Animes such as Naruto made appealing characters without needing their tits or ass flashing. The closest we got to that was Tsunade, but (once again) simply showing their body doesn't bother me.

 

I'm not sure if you looked through the entire thread, but I posted examples of what I thought was unnecessary. I don't expect everyone to read the entire thread, so feel free to see the link I posted if you haven't.



umegames said:
Wright said:

I dunno. I don't get bothered by fictionalized sexualization.

This.

To each's own i guess, but i hope people who are bothered by that, are equally or more bothered by real-life sexualization, which is rampant across every form of media to all viewers, indiscriminate of age. I suspect that's not the case though.

I get turned off by real life sexualization too, so I can't be considered hypocritical. Porn, bra ads, movies, etc. Criticize all of them equally.



Two things:

Can someone describe what "blades" are in the game? I was thinking of getting this but haven't played any of the previous in the series.

Can someone actually post a picture here of the offending characters? I'm getting the sense that they are completely naked and probably involved in an orgy.



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