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Please bump PS4 to 75,000,000 so it can be past the 3DS. Maybe drop the 3DS to 55,000,000, it doesn’t deserve higher than that.



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trunkswd said:
Welfare said:

2016 numbers http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=230334&page=1#68

Boutros's NPD threads also have numbers. Just work back from this thread http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=212380

Also, PS4 LTD Updates. After the | are VGC's numbers up to that week.

2.1M as of December 1st, 2013 | 2,133,547 (Basically spot on)
4.2M as of December 28th, 2013 | 4,193,840 (Could increase it to hit 4.2M)
5.3M as of February 8th, 2014 | 5,419,498 (Over 119K)
6.0M as of March 2nd, 2014 | 6,251,669 (Over 250K)
7.0M as of April 6th, 2014 | 7,194,368 (Over 194K)
10.0M as of August 10th, 2014 | 9,983,454 (Under 17K)
18.5M as of January 4th, 2015 | 19,085,306 (Over 585K)
20.2M as of March 1st. 2015 | 20,734,584 (Over 535K)
30.2M as of November 22nd, 2015 | 30,568,994 (Over 369K)
35.9M as of January 3rd, 2016 | 36,667,145 (Over 767K)
40.0M as of May 22nd, 2016 | 41,637,203 (Over 1637K)
50.0M as of December 6th, 2016 | 50,637,094 (Over +637K as December 6th was 3 days into the week after December 3rd)
53.4M as of January 1st, 2017 | 54,603,006 (Over 1203K)
60.4M as of June 11th, 2017 | 61,566,917 (Over 1167K)

Do you have links to the press releases from Sony with those official figures? 

2.1M as of December 1st, 2013 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2013/131203b.html
4.2M as of December 28th, 2013 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140108a.html
5.3M as of February 8th, 2014 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140218.html
6.0M as of March 2nd, 2014 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140304a.html
7.0M as of April 6th, 2014 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140417.html
10.0M as of August 10th, 2014 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140813a.html
18.5M as of January 4th, 2015 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2015/150106.html
20.2M as of March 1st. 2015 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2015/150304a.html
30.2M as of November 22nd, 2015 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2015/151125.html
35.9M as of January 3rd, 2016 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2016/160105.html
40.0M as of May 22nd, 2016 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2016/160526.html
50.0M as of December 6th, 2016 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2016/161207b.html
53.4M as of January 1st, 2017 https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2017/170105.html
60.4M as of June 11th, 2017 https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2017/170613.html



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

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trunkswd said:
Welfare said:

2.1M as of December 1st, 2013 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2013/131203b.html
4.2M as of December 28th, 2013 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140108a.html
5.3M as of February 8th, 2014 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140218.html
6.0M as of March 2nd, 2014 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140304a.html
7.0M as of April 6th, 2014 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140417.html
10.0M as of August 10th, 2014 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2014/140813a.html
18.5M as of January 4th, 2015 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2015/150106.html
20.2M as of March 1st. 2015 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2015/150304a.html
30.2M as of November 22nd, 2015 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2015/151125.html
35.9M as of January 3rd, 2016 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2016/160105.html
40.0M as of May 22nd, 2016 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2016/160526.html
50.0M as of December 6th, 2016 http://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2016/161207b.html
53.4M as of January 1st, 2017 https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2017/170105.html
60.4M as of June 11th, 2017 https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2017/170613.html

Thank you for the links. I only started doing hardware figures earlier this year and didn't have these. Looks like I have a LOT more adjustments to make. 

Good luck lmao



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

Jumpin said:
Please bump PS4 to 75,000,000 so it can be past the 3DS. Maybe drop the 3DS to 55,000,000, it doesn’t deserve higher than that.

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Great adjustment for ps4. Almost 35m ahead of xb1 now!

And good to see who u adjusted down. No way vita finishes last of the gen now



The Switch was at 7M sold-through as of the 29th of October. So something is amiss.



trunkswd said:
PS4 adjusted up 1.8m units to 65,656,515. (LT shipped at 67.5m as of Sep 30). When you add in the missing week of September hardware units on shelves/transit would be around 1.6m units heading into the holiday season.

1.6 million in stock before the holiday season seems awfully low. I think you are overcorrecting a bit here



Teeqoz said:
trunkswd said:
PS4 adjusted up 1.8m units to 65,656,515. (LT shipped at 67.5m as of Sep 30). When you add in the missing week of September hardware units on shelves/transit would be around 1.6m units heading into the holiday season.

1.6 million in stock before the holiday season seems awfully low. I think you are overcorrecting a bit here

I waited for you to say that, i didn't want to br me starting that...

 

 

Exactly, it could even be 3m.

 

 

Last year I got crucified for trying to prove that ps4 having 3m on the shelves can be normal *and that Sony overstuffed the shelves, my theory about that was that they shipped way more Ps4 slim units than the desirable underestimating pro version demand/anticipation.

 

 

(* thiswas based on comparison on official data and vgc data about markets that we don't have official data, increased in favor of ps4 of course with shipments data by Sony ).

 

Vgc adjusted up ps4 last year by 500k-600k (2.4m on thr shelves ) and in January we learnt that ps4 was overtracked by the number it was adjusted up and that it had 3.7m units on the shelves.

 

 

 

Apropos, I think he went overboard with 3ds adjustment up too, it definitely  needed an adjustement up of more than 300k in Europe since it was undertracked by 105.000+ as of early june in France, 200k vs 95k Jan-May ( NOF sales data ) - Jan-early june due a 5k weekly undertracking for 24 weeks, thus year.

 

 

200k in 5 months is 9k weekly sales on average, thus weekly sales baseline in Europe couldn't be 13k but double of that and a bit more for obvious reasons.

 

 

The 850k adjustment up in Eu seems excessive.

 

 

3ds must have more than 1.5m units on the shelves ( 2m ? ) , 550k are in Japan.

 

 

Note: I just checked and found out that trunks added the missing 400k in Europe this year but also another 400k in 2016 too (  I had the wrong notion that he mistakenly added them in rest of Europe for this year ) , based on a sell through chart by for FY16/17 Q1-Q3 by nintendo, 3ds had sold 1,95m  in EU while here it was estimated to have sold 2.09m for the whole year,

Consequently, 3ds was needing adjustment up in Eu in 2016 and it looks like trunks did an accurate adjustment up out of nowhere because I hadn't linked him the chart, i had forgotten that and hadn't even notified ioi last year.

 

 

However, I still believe that 3ds must have 1.5m+ even 2m+ i coudl say, ( holiday ahead and hardware revision release ) units on the shelves, so row sales maybe along with Europe sales before 2015.

Last edited by tak13 - on 15 November 2017

Kerotan said:
Great adjustment for ps4. Almost 35m ahead of xb1 now!

And good to see who u adjusted down. No way vita finishes last of the gen now

Horray about PSvita =]



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