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RingoGaSuki on 12 November 2017
flashfire926 said:
RingoGaSuki said:

Yes, but Kalos was an extremely low bar to cross. S/M's story, Pokemon and characters were solid, but the region itself was smaller than it could have been, and much more gated than it needed to be. Then now, US/UM may have been handled by GF's "B-team", but they are nothing but copy-pastes of S/M with additional post-game content, the lack of effort put into them has completely drained my hope for the Switch game at this point (hopefully they'll have something to show off in the January/February direct that blows our minds).

Well, wasnt that expected? This has been the case with every third version aside from Black 2/White 2. I would argue this is much better third version than Yellow/Emerald/Platinum, due to having a 4-5 brand new 'mons, and other things like rainbow rocket, ultra recon squad, and an expanded ultra-space is far and beyond what those three others version bought to table.

Low-effort cashgrabs shouldn't be the expected norm though, quality sequels that add a lot to the story and change the main game should be (like B2/W2, to a far lesser extent Emerald).

The main story of US/UM is 100% the same as S/M right until the point where you summon the legendary, and then it throws you into a horrible, gyroscope controlled (!!) minigame. The Ultra Recon Squad add nought to the game, apart from one or two battles, Ultra Space is barely Aether Foundation sized, Mantine Surfing is only a thing between two islands and Rainbow Rocket is post-game. The few new Pokemon are cool additions, but even they have zero impact on the main game, and no appearances either, outside of the endgame battle, and Ultra Recon Squad. It's pretty much S/M's Platinum, it really should have just been DLC for S/M and it is absolutely not worth picking up if you have those already.

If it means that they've had more hands on deck for the Switch game and as a result it'll be mind-blowing, then great, but I want to see it first.

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caffeinade on 12 November 2017
RingoGaSuki said:
flashfire926 said:

Well, wasnt that expected? This has been the case with every third version aside from Black 2/White 2. I would argue this is much better third version than Yellow/Emerald/Platinum, due to having a 4-5 brand new 'mons, and other things like rainbow rocket, ultra recon squad, and an expanded ultra-space is far and beyond what those three others version bought to table.

Low-effort cashgrabs shouldn't be the expected norm though, quality sequels that add a lot to the story and change the main game should be (like B2/W2, to a far lesser extent Emerald).

The main story of US/UM is 100% the same as S/M right until the point where you summon the legendary, and then it throws you into a horrible, gyroscope controlled (!!) minigame. The Ultra Recon Squad add nought to the game, apart from one or two battles, Ultra Space is barely Aether Foundation sized, Mantine Surfing is only a thing between two islands and Rainbow Rocket is post-game. The few new Pokemon are cool additions, but even they have zero impact on the main game, and no appearances either, outside of the endgame battle, and Ultra Recon Squad. It's pretty much S/M's Platinum, it really should have just been DLC for S/M and it is absolutely not worth picking up if you have those already.

If it means that they've had more hands on deck for the Switch game and as a result it'll be mind-blowing, then great, but I want to see it first.

Did the game leak?



RingoGaSuki on 12 November 2017
caffeinade said:
RingoGaSuki said:

Low-effort cashgrabs shouldn't be the expected norm though, quality sequels that add a lot to the story and change the main game should be (like B2/W2, to a far lesser extent Emerald).

The main story of US/UM is 100% the same as S/M right until the point where you summon the legendary, and then it throws you into a horrible, gyroscope controlled (!!) minigame. The Ultra Recon Squad add nought to the game, apart from one or two battles, Ultra Space is barely Aether Foundation sized, Mantine Surfing is only a thing between two islands and Rainbow Rocket is post-game. The few new Pokemon are cool additions, but even they have zero impact on the main game, and no appearances either, outside of the endgame battle, and Ultra Recon Squad. It's pretty much S/M's Platinum, it really should have just been DLC for S/M and it is absolutely not worth picking up if you have those already.

If it means that they've had more hands on deck for the Switch game and as a result it'll be mind-blowing, then great, but I want to see it first.

Did the game leak?

Yeah, it leaked three-four days ago, available to download now in those unmentionable places. I have a copy pre-ordered so I just went ahead and grabbed it and... it's very disappointing if your expectations were anywhere above the absolute bare minimum.



Otter on 12 November 2017

Nintendo treat the mainline Pokemon series as they do Zelda and Mario. Its not going to be tarnished for profit, thats what all the spins off are for.



TheLegendaryWolf on 12 November 2017

Pokemon Platinum HD Remake for Switch, next year would make it 10 years since it's release (Japan) and 10 years in 2019 (worldwide).



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gergroy on 12 November 2017
caffeinade said:
Zach808 said:
Does this series even need microtransactions to be profitable? The budget for each game is probably not that high at all, yet the series still does almost COD-like numbers. I’m thinking the sky’s the limit for what they could do on the Switch, considering all the power the thing has compared to everything else they’ve worked with.

The budget of a Pokemon game is almost non existent when compared to big titles.
Pokemon does not need microtransactions to be wildly profitable.

They have also never made an hd Pokemon game.  It will require more people and a bigger budget than a 3ds game.  That doesn’t mean they will put microtransactions in the game as Nintendo doesn’t really make big changes like that to their core ips.  However, the budget for Pokémon switch will definitely be an exponential increase over past iterations.



SnesTea on 12 November 2017
Green098 said:
Wyrdness said:

I think people underestimate how diverse one based on the US would be tbh.

They already made a region based on the US, the Unova region in Pokémon Black and White.

New York =/= The Whole United States.



flashfire926 on 12 November 2017
RingoGaSuki said:
flashfire926 said:

Well, wasnt that expected? This has been the case with every third version aside from Black 2/White 2. I would argue this is much better third version than Yellow/Emerald/Platinum, due to having a 4-5 brand new 'mons, and other things like rainbow rocket, ultra recon squad, and an expanded ultra-space is far and beyond what those three others version bought to table.

Low-effort cashgrabs shouldn't be the expected norm though, quality sequels that add a lot to the story and change the main game should be (like B2/W2, to a far lesser extent Emerald).

The main story of US/UM is 100% the same as S/M right until the point where you summon the legendary, and then it throws you into a horrible, gyroscope controlled (!!) minigame. The Ultra Recon Squad add nought to the game, apart from one or two battles, Ultra Space is barely Aether Foundation sized, Mantine Surfing is only a thing between two islands and Rainbow Rocket is post-game. The few new Pokemon are cool additions, but even they have zero impact on the main game, and no appearances either, outside of the endgame battle, and Ultra Recon Squad. It's pretty much S/M's Platinum, it really should have just been DLC for S/M and it is absolutely not worth picking up if you have those already.

If it means that they've had more hands on deck for the Switch game and as a result it'll be mind-blowing, then great, but I want to see it first.

I mean, how is emerald a better third version than this? It brought next to nothing n ew except the Battle Frontier. Wouldnt call that a "quality sequels that add a lot to the story and change the main game should be ". Same goes for Platinum, even though its my favourite pokemon game.

And Rainbow Rocket leaders have legendaries, why would that be during the story?

Well yeah, I do agree its sorta dissapointing after what they did Black 2/White 2, sure. 



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

Frogger on 12 November 2017

I think it's going to be disappointing, personally. It won't be as ambitious as people like me want.



AngryLittleAlchemist on 12 November 2017

 

StarOcean said: 

GF is a bit smarter than you give them credit for