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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 VS Switch lifetime sales, which console will sell the most?

 

What do you expect?

NSW will win by a huge margin 53 16.06%
 
NSW will win by a small margin 75 22.73%
 
PS4 will win by a small margin 75 22.73%
 
PS4 will win by a huge margin 117 35.45%
 
Sorry, no troll XB1 option. :P Oh wait... 10 3.03%
 
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Ryng_Tolu said:
Azuren said:
Even if Switch outsold PS4 by 10% every week for the next 3 years

The point is, for the next 3 years Switch is not gonna sell 10% more than PS4. More like 100% to 300% more lol

If you think so. It certainly hasn't been doing that yet.



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We need to see what Pokemon Switch is like before semi-accurate predictions can be made.

Whilst most of us make jokes about Pokemon GO, it has built up huge amounts of positive pressure towards the Pokemon IP.
Pokemon Switch could single-handedly carry the Switch over the PS4's lead.



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Azuren said:
Even if Switch outsold PS4 by 10% every week for the next 3 years, PS4 would still top it out by a large margin at the end of the generation.

Uh ... yeah ... Because that would give the Switch 4 years on the market vs. a potential 6 years? Lol.

Three years was simply how long I feel 8th Gen has left. Even if it outsold the PS4 by 20% every week for the next FIVE years, it wouldn't do anything. PS4 has too much of a headstart, and despite what some people insist, Switch is an 8th Gen and will likely be replaced around the same time as the PS4.



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Ryng_Tolu said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Yeah.. and selling 10% more every week is selling 10% more every year, that's how math works. Sos elling 100% - 300% more weekly is selling 100% - 300% more yearly.

 

By the time the PS5 comes out Switch wont be in reach. Switch has to first overcome a 60 million deficit, and by the time it does that PS4 will have already sold 10s of millions of more units. 

Edit: Screw it I'm bookmarking this.

You seriusly don't get the point, so i'll make it clear, here what he said:

"Even if Switch outsold PS4 by 10% every week for the next 3 years"

This dude is saying this as, in the best scenario, Switch is going to sell at best only 10% more than PS4 for the next THREE YEARS.

Which is a super low number. My point is not that Switch will ALWAYS outsell PS4 for at least 100% every week, but that there are going to be weeks where Swicth outsell by a HUGE margin, that's the point. yes, some times x4 or x5, expecially if we talk about 2020 which is alsmot for sure the PS5 year, if not 2019.

Was that hard to understand?

 

Also, what's the second part about?

"By the time the PS5 comes out Switch wont be in reach. Switch has to first overcome a 60 million deficit, and by the time it does that PS4 will have already sold 10s of millions of more units. "

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LOL i don't even said i expect Switch to outsell PS4 (well, i'll clearly say this, yes, i actually think so even if i think will be super close), 

Well there you go. You expect it to overcome the decefit and whatever ground it makes in the years it takes to overcome that deficit.

Why do you think Switch will be selling more than PS4 consistently? It hasn't been happening so far..



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Azuren said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Uh ... yeah ... Because that would give the Switch 4 years on the market vs. a potential 6 years? Lol.

Three years was simply how long I feel 8th Gen has left. Even if it outsold the PS4 by 20% every week for the next FIVE years, it wouldn't do anything. PS4 has too much of a headstart, and despite what some people insist, Switch is an 8th Gen and will likely be replaced around the same time as the PS4.

So you seriously expect that Switch will have a lifecycle of 4.5 years at max? Switch launched 3.5 years after PS4, but it'll get replaced at the same time. Obviously.

And that's not even addressing how completely illogical it is to think that Switch selling 20% more than PS4 for the next five years is some sort of difficult feat. You do realize that at least 4 of those years are going to be after PS4's peak, right?



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ArchangelMadzz said:

Well there you go. You expect it to overcome the decefit and whatever ground it makes in the years it takes to overcome that deficit.

Why do you think Switch will be selling more than PS4 consistently? It hasn't been happening so far..

Ok you know what, now you are just changing argument right there, because that was not the point.

And honestly, i won't even expain to you why i think this will be the case, for the simple fact that you still don't understand the conpect of the console. You, and a lot of guys, but maybe / probabily you will all start to understand how Switch concept is in a few years, and you will understand why.

I'll just reply to this part:

"Why do you think Switch will be selling more than PS4 consistently? It hasn't been happening so far.."

You seriusly don't understand that THE ONLY reason this isn't happen yet is because of stock issue? For real? And because for the nexts years PS4 will slow down? I mean, is not THAT hard to understand...



Ryng_Tolu said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Well there you go. You expect it to overcome the decefit and whatever ground it makes in the years it takes to overcome that deficit.

Why do you think Switch will be selling more than PS4 consistently? It hasn't been happening so far..

Ok you know what, now you are just changing argument right there, because that was not the point.

And honestly, i won't even expain to you why i think this will be the case, for the simple fact that you still don't understand the conpect of the console. You, and a lot of guys, but maybe / probabily you will all start to understand how Switch concept is in a few years, and you will understand why.

I'll just reply to this part:

"Why do you think Switch will be selling more than PS4 consistently? It hasn't been happening so far.."

You seriusly don't understand that THE ONLY reason this isn't happen yet is because of stock issue? For real? And because for the nexts years PS4 will slow down? I mean, is not THAT hard to understand...

My entire argument is that the Switch will now Sell more LT than the PS4. That's literally the topic of the thread.
I understand the switch, I understand why it's selling and I understand that it's selling very very well but what I don't understand is why you think it will outsell PS4 LT. Reaching 60 million will happen but will be tough, and that's just to get where the PS4 was a couple of months ago. 


Every year people have said the PS4 will slow down, this train is only getting started ;) 




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ArchangelMadzz said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

Ok you know what, now you are just changing argument right there, because that was not the point.

And honestly, i won't even expain to you why i think this will be the case, for the simple fact that you still don't understand the conpect of the console. You, and a lot of guys, but maybe / probabily you will all start to understand how Switch concept is in a few years, and you will understand why.

I'll just reply to this part:

"Why do you think Switch will be selling more than PS4 consistently? It hasn't been happening so far.."

You seriusly don't understand that THE ONLY reason this isn't happen yet is because of stock issue? For real? And because for the nexts years PS4 will slow down? I mean, is not THAT hard to understand...

My entire argument is that the Switch will now Sell more LT than the PS4. That's literally the topic of the thread.
I understand the switch, I understand why it's selling and I understand that it's selling very very well but what I don't understand is why you think it will outsell PS4 LT. Reaching 60 million will happen but will be tough, and that's just to get where the PS4 was a couple of months ago. 


Every year people have said the PS4 will slow down, this train is only getting started ;) 


The gaming market overall is growing year on year.
The Switch, releasing years after the PS4 should give it a natural LT sales edge.

Also, China.



I expect the PS4 to sell 100-120 Million lifetime with the PS5 releasing in early 2020, and if Nintendo releases a fully handheld Switch model for $150 in 2019/2020 I expect the Switch to release 100-130 million lifetime, otherwise I expect the Switch to cap at about 80-90 million.

So it depends on Nintendo more than anything.



caffeinade said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

My entire argument is that the Switch will now Sell more LT than the PS4. That's literally the topic of the thread.
I understand the switch, I understand why it's selling and I understand that it's selling very very well but what I don't understand is why you think it will outsell PS4 LT. Reaching 60 million will happen but will be tough, and that's just to get where the PS4 was a couple of months ago. 


Every year people have said the PS4 will slow down, this train is only getting started ;) 


The gaming market overall is growing year on year.
The Switch, releasing years after the PS4 should give it a natural LT sales edge.

Also, China.

Which is why the PS4 keeps on selling well no matter how many times people say it's 'peaked'

How so? Intrigued to understand that.

China? That'll be interesting to see but I really doubt the Chinese market will add much. Just because there's a lot of people doesn't mean sales are massive, ie India. 



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