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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 VS Switch lifetime sales, which console will sell the most?

 

What do you expect?

NSW will win by a huge margin 53 16.06%
 
NSW will win by a small margin 75 22.73%
 
PS4 will win by a small margin 75 22.73%
 
PS4 will win by a huge margin 117 35.45%
 
Sorry, no troll XB1 option. :P Oh wait... 10 3.03%
 
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DonFerrari said:
Just saw someone posting that Switch is already trailing behind PS4 aligned on Europe, and considering it's common for Nintendo gens to be shorter but is possible to have higher sales on the same time period this race will be quite competitive.

Europe doesn't exist



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Miyamotoo said:
A_C_E said:

Dude, who cares about Worldwide? Only Japan and US matter, okay? Just look at those US and Japan Switch numbers! You must be a troll with all this evidence of PS4 consistently outselling the Switch worldwide!

The Switch doesn't need to outsell the PS4 worldwide to be the best selling device because NPD said so. Oh, and Japan also said so. Your "worldwide" results are meaningless!

ps - It also doesn't matter that Sony's single strongest market sold on par with Nintendo's two strongest markets combined this week, so don't even go there!

 

Japan and US are not only important ones, but for them we at least have numbers, you can't say that for Europe, we don't have numbers for hole Europe because Europe is hole continent with more than 40 countries and different markets so its much more harder to track sales, and even much harder to have actualy accurate numbers.

What NPD and MC says about sales numbers is definitely much more accurate than what are Vgchartz numbers.

We have enough information about europe to see that this is in the right ballpark. Stick to the first year vs. fourth year argument, as that is solid.



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Kyuu said:
A_C_E said:

Europe doesn't exist

Globally in the United States of Japan!

Just United states of Japan. None of this "global" nonsense



A_C_E said:
DonFerrari said:
Just saw someone posting that Switch is already trailing behind PS4 aligned on Europe, and considering it's common for Nintendo gens to be shorter but is possible to have higher sales on the same time period this race will be quite competitive.

Europe doesn't exist

Who wants those Nazisales?



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DonFerrari said:
A_C_E said:

Europe doesn't exist

Who wants those Nazisales?

No wonder they aren't tracked!



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A_C_E said:
Miyamotoo said:

 

Japan and US are not only important ones, but for them we at least have numbers, you can't say that for Europe, we don't have numbers for hole Europe because Europe is hole continent with more than 40 countries and different markets so its much more harder to track sales, and even much harder to have actualy accurate numbers.

What NPD and MC says about sales numbers is definitely much more accurate than what are Vgchartz numbers.

Got it. Since we don't have official numbers for Europe then we can't consider them. I mean, honestly...how can we consider numbers we don't have? These Sonybots, I tell ya!

NPD and MC track sales which means those sales exist. No one tracks European sales which means they don't exist!

No we can consider them of course, but Vgchartz numbers are definitely not most accurate in any case, especially compared to NPD and MC numbers.



Miyamotoo said:

No we can consider them of course, but Vgchartz numbers are definitely not most accurate in any case, especially compared to NPD and MC numbers.

I know, I was just poking fun.

It is what it is though, right? Our analysis of transactions doesn't change the amount of transactions taking place. If the discussion is only going to pertain to that of an absolute standing then we would only be able to equate quarterly results. Anything less (NPD, VGChartz, MC) would be further from the absolute. NPD is not as accurate as quarterly financial statements as there are margins of error for NPD as well as other tracking firms (as appears five times in this sentence, six if you include the one I just typed). There is varying results of accuracy among the data trackers meaning some are more reliable than others but they all share common ground in the fact they are nothing but indicators.

Although European numbers aren't tracked as well as US or JP that does not take away from the fact that WW numbers have been more prominently in PS4's favor than in Switch's favor. And isn't this what the whole discussion is about; using indicators to guess who will end up as the biggest seller?



Miyamotoo said:
A_C_E said:

Got it. Since we don't have official numbers for Europe then we can't consider them. I mean, honestly...how can we consider numbers we don't have? These Sonybots, I tell ya!

NPD and MC track sales which means those sales exist. No one tracks European sales which means they don't exist!

No we can consider them of course, but Vgchartz numbers are definitely not most accurate in any case, especially compared to NPD and MC numbers.

VgChartz is not the most accurate, specially because they have been Undertracking the PS4 for the most part of this gen, only for them to get on par when official Sony numbers releases.

You are saying that i cant compare Switch 1st year with PS4 4th year, and while that is a pretty valid argument, id say that in this particular scenario, things are not that black and white, let me tell you why (imo):

The Switch is receiving on its first year basically all of their Huge System sellers: A 3D Mario, a Zelda, a Mario Kart and a Splatoon game.

With the exception of Pokemon, that obviously would be HUUUGE for the system, what else do they have that would move a crazy number of units?



ThisGuyFooks said:
Miyamotoo said:

No we can consider them of course, but Vgchartz numbers are definitely not most accurate in any case, especially compared to NPD and MC numbers.

VgChartz is not the most accurate, specially because they have been Undertracking the PS4 for the most part of this gen, only for them to get on par when official Sony numbers releases.

You are saying that i cant compare Switch 1st year with PS4 4th year, and while that is a pretty valid argument, id say that in this particular scenario, things are not that black and white, let me tell you why (imo):

The Switch is receiving on its first year basically all of their Huge System sellers: A 3D Mario, a Zelda, a Mario Kart and a Splatoon game.

With the exception of Pokemon, that obviously would be HUUUGE for the system, what else do they have that would move a crazy number of units?

Fact is that VgCHartz numbers are not most accurate and thats we dont need to belive too much in VgCHartz numbers.

Yes, there is no point comparing at all 1st year of one system and 4. year of another system, especially if one system most of 1st year had huge stock problems and other system has best year until now.

What Switch received in 1st year don't change point why you cant compare 1st Switch year and 4. PS4 year on market. Yes, Switch have some very strong 1st party games in first year but PS4 has some very strong 3rd party games, and some strong 1st party games and exclusives.

Pokemon is not only big game left, you also have Animal Crossing, Smash Bros. 2D Mario, new IPs, Metroid Prime, new 3D Mario, new Zelda, new Mario Kart... With every new good or big game, Switch is becoming more and more desirable console, so Switch will probably without problems sell more in second year than what will sell in 1st year. And in future you also have price cuts and revisions.

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ThisGuyFooks said:

The Switch is receiving on its first year basically all of their Huge System sellers: A 3D Mario, a Zelda, a Mario Kart and a Splatoon game.

With the exception of Pokemon, that obviously would be HUUUGE for the system, what else do they have that would move a crazy number of units?

Couldnt the same have been said for PS4? In 2014 it had Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Battlefield, FIFA, GTA, Madden, NBA, Watch Dogs, Destiny, etc. Yet it still sold better in 2015, 2016 & 2017.

 

Nintendo still has quite a bit of big guns left, like you said Pokemon is a huge one but Animal Crossing, Smash Bros and 2D Mario are all capable of selling over 10 million. On top of that, Nintendo has a couple dozen B/C tier franchises that can sell in the 1-5 million range. Thats not even factoring price cuts and revisions.



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