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AllMighto said:
Slarvax said:

That Xenoverse 2 number might still be too high. VGC tracks sold to consumers, not shipments, so the site's numbers have to always be below official shipments. There's also digital numbers to consider, which are not tracked at all on VGC.

You might be right on Naruto Storm 4. These adjustments were mostly in France though, so we'll have to wait until Machina looks at it in other markets (I would guess the biggest differentiator will be US and/or Japan, but Japan numbers come straight from Media Create and Famitsu... So the US it is)

Well what about Xenoverse 1? That was said to have shipped 4 million copies ages ago. This site has it at selling a mere 2.32 million as of the most recent numbers. Even if this site does have to be below, that's probably less than half what it's actually sold.

http://comicbook.com/gaming/2017/11/03/dragon-ball-xenoverse-eight-million-copies-sold-bandai-namco/

According to that they've shipped 8 million copies between Xenoverse 1 and 2. According to this site however both games have sold 3.8 million copies. Again not even half as much.

Ignoring shipments. This site has MGS4 as selling 830,000 copies in Japan. Yet according to actual sales from Media Create which this site does use, it's actually sold 986,000 copies as of at least 2015.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=199030&page=1#

So that's undertracked by at least 150,000. So why has that not been fixed in over 2 and half years even though there's proper figures?

That's why this thread was made! Adjustments will now be done by Machina, hopefully much faster and better than before.

I won't deny the site's numbers can be constantly wrong, but the sales team always tries their best. Now we can (and should) expect more accuracy from them.



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Slarvax said:
AllMighto said:

Well what about Xenoverse 1? That was said to have shipped 4 million copies ages ago. This site has it at selling a mere 2.32 million as of the most recent numbers. Even if this site does have to be below, that's probably less than half what it's actually sold.

http://comicbook.com/gaming/2017/11/03/dragon-ball-xenoverse-eight-million-copies-sold-bandai-namco/

According to that they've shipped 8 million copies between Xenoverse 1 and 2. According to this site however both games have sold 3.8 million copies. Again not even half as much.

Ignoring shipments. This site has MGS4 as selling 830,000 copies in Japan. Yet according to actual sales from Media Create which this site does use, it's actually sold 986,000 copies as of at least 2015.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=199030&page=1#

So that's undertracked by at least 150,000. So why has that not been fixed in over 2 and half years even though there's proper figures?

That's why this thread was made! Adjustments will now be done by Machina, hopefully much faster and better than before.

I won't deny the site's numbers can be constantly wrong, but the sales team always tries their best. Now we can (and should) expect more accuracy from them.

And that can be asked without being disrespectfull for the work the team is doing.

Let's hope they can get work done good and fast.



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Bayonetta 2: will increase, or decrease?

I remember when was at 1.02 million, then adjusted down to 0.75 :(
(ZombiU hold that million's mark, though)



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I really looking forward to the adjustments. Thank you!



AllMighto said:

Let me get this right. So Xenoverse 2 was decreased. According to this site it has sold 1.47 million copies after over a year. Despite the fact it shipped 1.6 million off the bat?

Naruto Storm 4 was decreased. It's sold 1.65 million according to this site even though it was just recently recently it's actually now sold 3 million copies.

So when are you gonna bother to fix this? On top of the many incorrect numbers listed on the site even though there's official figures available.

Alt removed -RavenXtra

I see you've been banned so you may not see this reply, but I'll post one anyway. Those adjustments in the OP were just for France. I'm going to do every region, but we're talking thousands of titles and even more adjustments - it will take time!

Slarvax said:
AllMighto said:
Let me get this right. So Xenoverse 2 was decreased. According to this site it has sold 1.47 million copies after over a year. Despite the fact it shipped 1.6 million off the bat?

Naruto Storm 4 was decreased. It's sold 1.65 million according to this site even though it was just recently recently it's actually now sold 3 million copies.

So when are you gonna bother to fix this? On top of the many incorrect numbers listed on the site even though there's official figures available.

That Xenoverse 2 number might still be too high. VGC tracks sold to consumers, not shipments, so the site's numbers have to always be below official shipments. There's also digital numbers to consider, which are not tracked at all on VGC.

You might be right on Naruto Storm 4. These adjustments were mostly in France though, so we'll have to wait until Machina looks at it in other markets (I would guess the biggest differentiator will be US and/or Japan, but Japan numbers come straight from Media Create and Famitsu... So the US it is)

Just to clarify slightly. Our Japanese figures are a weighting of MC, Famitsu, and our own tracking.

DonFerrari said:

Hey one of the obvious adjustments is the GT sales that we got exact numbers for all games on each region.

And congrats on the efforts.

Yep, they're on my list.

rodea_sky_soldier said:
Bayonetta 2: will increase, or decrease?

I remember when was at 1.02 million, then adjusted down to 0.75 :(
(ZombiU hold that million's mark, though)

It's been increased in France. We'll see about other regions when I get to them. These adjustments will naturally mean that a lot of titles will jump or fall, but what's important is that we have totals that are as accurate as possible - it's no good a game showing over a million if in reality it's sold 750k, and vice versa.



Machina said:
AllMighto said:

Let me get this right. So Xenoverse 2 was decreased. According to this site it has sold 1.47 million copies after over a year. Despite the fact it shipped 1.6 million off the bat?

Naruto Storm 4 was decreased. It's sold 1.65 million according to this site even though it was just recently recently it's actually now sold 3 million copies.

So when are you gonna bother to fix this? On top of the many incorrect numbers listed on the site even though there's official figures available.

Alt removed -RavenXtra

I see you've been banned so you may not see this reply, but I'll post one anyway. Those adjustments in the OP were just for France. I'm going to do every region, but we're talking thousands of titles and even more adjustments - it will take time!

Slarvax said:

That Xenoverse 2 number might still be too high. VGC tracks sold to consumers, not shipments, so the site's numbers have to always be below official shipments. There's also digital numbers to consider, which are not tracked at all on VGC.

You might be right on Naruto Storm 4. These adjustments were mostly in France though, so we'll have to wait until Machina looks at it in other markets (I would guess the biggest differentiator will be US and/or Japan, but Japan numbers come straight from Media Create and Famitsu... So the US it is)

Just to clarify slightly. Our Japanese figures are a weighting of MC, Famitsu, and our own tracking.

DonFerrari said:

Hey one of the obvious adjustments is the GT sales that we got exact numbers for all games on each region.

And congrats on the efforts.

Yep, they're on my list.

rodea_sky_soldier said:
Bayonetta 2: will increase, or decrease?

I remember when was at 1.02 million, then adjusted down to 0.75 :(
(ZombiU hold that million's mark, though)

It's been increased in France. We'll see about other regions when I get to them. These adjustments will naturally mean that a lot of titles will jump or fall, but what's important is that we have totals that are as accurate as possible - it's no good a game showing over a million if in reality it's sold 750k, and vice versa.

Thanks man.

If you can find the links for Gfk and "veja" magazine for Brazil they have some numbers and ranking for Brazil, unfortunatelly they aren't much in deepy.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Great news for the site... but it will be a hell lot of work for you, Machina. I don't envy you at all .

Also, thanks to Talon for making the software tool (let's hope the hardware one comes soon), and congrats to Boutros for joining the Sales Team.



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Are you going to adjust the sales of Mario + Rabbids and Splatoon 2 in the U.S. and Europe? Pretty sure both are undertracked.