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Ka-pi96 said:
So... did you get in trouble for being late to work?

Nah, it's quite lax here but it will especially be noticed on shift days like today. Looks like nobody noticed thankfully. Our team room is quite secluded from the rest of the office.

VGPolyglot said:
Ka-pi96 said:
So... did you get in trouble for being late to work?

I wonder how he'd explain that to his boss. "Sorry, but I saw black people on the bus, and just couldn't be on it with them!"

I wanted to tell the story to my colleagues but no one was there. I will probably tell it eventually. In the end nothing happened and it was just an interesting tale for me. I mean we're all rational people here.



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I can't say I relate, but I won't blame you for what happened. I used to be paranoid around white people, and it was probably due to me rarely seeing them for my childhood. Not your fault that you had uncontrollable emotions



vivster said:
Ka-pi96 said:
So... did you get in trouble for being late to work?

Nah, it's quite lax here but it will especially be noticed on shift days like today. Looks like nobody noticed thankfully. Our team room is quite secluded from the rest of the office.

VGPolyglot said:

I wonder how he'd explain that to his boss. "Sorry, but I saw black people on the bus, and just couldn't be on it with them!"

I wanted to tell the story to my colleagues but no one was there. I will probably tell it eventually. In the end nothing happened and it was just an interesting tale for me. I mean we're all rational people here.

This isn't the first time though that I've heard you speak of this. I remember you also mentioning not being able to watch interracial porn when blacks are in it.



I think you did the right thing. In any case, you should trust your instincts. Sometimes they can see what you can't and then take a response for the invisible danger you're not aware of.



vivster said:
AsGryffynn said:
So you feared you were at risk of being the victim of a terrorist event... Given the current scheme of things in Europe, it's never too far fetched to be wary of suspicious activity, even if it isn't really anything...

But the black part rather than singling them out for acting weird alone does feel something slanted...

Let's say them being black drew my attention more than usual. Middle eastern men would've probably had a similar draw but not as strong since Turkish people are very common in Berlin.

Peh said:

Schwarzfahrer XD

Maybe they were looking for someone so they seperated to cover a wider space. Or someone was looking for them. Who knows. 

Depending on where you are in Berlin, there are plenty of black people here. Even I know some of the wannabe criminals. What's the location you went through? 

I went through the east part where they're quite rare. It's mostly eastern European and Asians here.

Intrinsic said:
Well.... I am Black................. so......

Good thing for you though is that I am open minded, and can relate with what your concerns were.

The real question though is; would you have noticed any of that at all if those people weren't black?

I would have noticed the odd behavior but I most likely wouldn't have assumed anything bad. If they had been white I'd instantly assume they're just ticket inspectors. Which makes the thing interesting because being unassuming of white people who behave out of the ordinary could cost me my life too. I had just never seen a group of 3 black people as ticket inspectors, which in retrospect they probably have been.

XD, this is just too funny. I have traveled to Germany twice, and I've seen maybe one black person in my time there, while probably having crossed hundreds of middle easterns and Asians, so I could understand why they seem a bit alien (there aren't a lot of blacks in Canada, but enough that you you usually see at least a few throughout the day in a city like mine. Anyway, bit of an awkward story to wake up too, but I'll take it.



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You mention "Inmigration background" as if it was something negative, souspicious, something to care about in terms of security. Not sure if it's racist, but definitly there is something subtly xenophobous there. And you mention you're not paranoid, but then you narrate how you take "security measures" oftenly to avoid possible dangers. Honestly, you're right when you say the media has placed dangerous stereotipes and fears in people's minds. Statistically, you're more likely to die in a traffick accident than on a terrorist attack. If you're in the US you're thousands of times more likely to die killed by gunshots by a US citizen than by a terrorist attack with bombs and stuff. You should try to stop worrying about that security concerns, watch less TV and enjoy life without preoccupations ;)



VGPolyglot said:
vivster said:

Nah, it's quite lax here but it will especially be noticed on shift days like today. Looks like nobody noticed thankfully. Our team room is quite secluded from the rest of the office.

I wanted to tell the story to my colleagues but no one was there. I will probably tell it eventually. In the end nothing happened and it was just an interesting tale for me. I mean we're all rational people here.

This isn't the first time though that I've heard you speak of this. I remember you also mentioning not being able to watch interracial porn when blacks are in it.

I didn't say "not able to". I said it doesn't arouse me sexually. I don't think it's a crime or even harmful when I'm not aroused by the majority of a certain race because they don't feature the secondary and tertiary attributes that get me aroused.



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Well I can see myself doing the same...so either we’re both terrible or neither are. Especially give how awful the current climate is for these things. Just the other day at work, one of my employees forwarded me an issue with an assembly line worker writing down “AK-47” on a sign-up sheet for Saturday overtime, and she was honestly scared to come into work because of it. We’re just in an unfortunate place where people are genuinely worried about these things, and rightfully so.

The way I see it, is that even if there’s only a 1/1000 chance of anything bad happening, that bad thing is still over 10000 times worse than being 10 minutes late. Doing the math, your logic makes sense.



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Zarkho said:
You mention "Inmigration background" as if it was something negative, souspicious, something to care about in terms of security. Not sure if it's racist, but definitly there is something subtly xenophobous there. And you mention you're not paranoid, but then you narrate how you take "security measures" oftenly to avoid possible dangers. Honestly, you're right when you say the media has placed dangerous stereotipes and fears in people's minds. Statistically, you're more likely to die in a traffick accident than on a terrorist attack. If you're in the US you're thousands of times more likely to die killed by gunshots by a US citizen than by a terrorist attack with bombs and stuff. You should try to stop worrying about that security concerns, watch less TV and enjoy life without preoccupations ;)

As luck would have it my way of enjoying life usually means to stay as far away from other people as possible, so I'm not concerned on that front. But my lifestyle also leads to the fact that my contact with other people is very limited and experiences are isolated. If I had people with immigrant background in my inner circle of friends I might have a stronger resistance against influence of otherwise negative experiences.

The thing I mentioned with people with immigration background were actual negative experiences I had with them throughout my life including a late night unprovoked violent ambush and robbery. Having that in mind I think it's natural to be more cautious. I've been stung enough by wasps in my life to know to avoid all of them before politely inquiring if they have the actual intention of stinging me.

Being open and welcoming every single human being into your life might be a nice thing to do but it's not worth it or necessary for my personal lifestyle. I'm fine with keeping my distance and not harming anyone, but I think it would be foolish to assume that the people around me have the same disposition.



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Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:

I didn't say "not able to". I said it doesn't arouse me sexually. I don't think it's a crime or even harmful when I'm not aroused by the majority of a certain race because they don't feature the secondary and tertiary attributes that get me aroused.

Makes sense. I wouldn't want to watch black people in porn either. They're just not my type.

You know what, I've heard numerous people say this, but it's just something that I can't wrap my head around myself. For me I am fine with all races.