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Forums - Politics Discussion - Do you support the death penalty?

 

What about you?

Yes 119 36.73%
 
No 128 39.51%
 
I have to explain (please make a post) 11 3.40%
 
No, and I also oppose corporal punishment 38 11.73%
 
See results 28 8.64%
 
Total:324

I do support it but only if there is no doubt that the suspect is the assailant, no one needs wrongful execution. the guilt anybody harbors from that should be terrible. also, the death penalty is just better in a world where the world population increases at an insurmountable rate, there will probably be no place in jails in the future, the death penalty will at least clean up these terrible people who can only do harm to society and are overall a waste of space.



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* Innocent People have been sentenced to death. - 1 Innocent person is 1 to many.
Even people who have been convicted of mass murder or pedophilia have been found to be innocent after the state murdered them.

* The Death Penalty is a waste of life/resources. - But them to work in a confined environment and force them to pay back society, make them farm food for homeless or some crap.

* Death Penalty doesn't reduce crime or incarceration rates, it's a useless deterrent.



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Singapore has mandatory death sentence to any person being found with more than enough weight of illegal drugs. Singapore is one of the country with lowest prevalence of drug abuse. I don't buy this "Death penalty is expensive" or "death penalty is not a crime deterrent". I've googled the sources and they are from groups or websites with agenda, give me a break.



Bristow9091 said:
We should bring back the guillotine and public hangings... much cheaper than keeping a criminal in a cell for years on end before finally injecting expensive chemicals into them, and you could even charge people a few bob to watch too!

What about public burnings? They were pretty dope.



Tbh Yes.



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No, because I believe they should be punished in jail. And when I mean punished, I mean that. Prisons should not have anything in them, no TV, entertainment, no easy life, all that crap is not a human right. Besides, they gave up their human rights when they decided to take away the human rights of another person.



Hmm, pie.

Dota2Gamer said:
Singapore has mandatory death sentence to any person being found with more than enough weight of illegal drugs. Singapore is one of the country with lowest prevalence of drug abuse. I don't buy this "Death penalty is expensive" or "death penalty is not a crime deterrent". I've googled the sources and they are from groups or websites with agenda, give me a break.

And yet... The United States has the Death Penalty and it has some of the highest incarceration rates in the world.

Australia used to have the Death Penalty. Crime didn't suddenly skyrocket once we abolished it.


https://theconversation.com/theres-no-evidence-that-death-penalty-is-a-deterrent-against-crime-43227
http://www.abc.net.au/news/factcheck/2015-02-26/fact-check3a-does-the-death-penalty-deter3f/6116030
https://www.crikey.com.au/2005/11/28/death-penalty-facts-and-figures/

And I quote:

In Canada, for example, the homicide rate per 100,000 population fell from a peak of 3.09 in 1975, the year before the abolition of the death penalty for murder, to 2.41 in 1980, and since then it has declined further. In 2003, 27 years after abolition, the homicide rate was 1.73 per 100,000 population, 44 per cent lower than in 1975 and the lowest rate in three decades.


So. What is the real reason that the US government spends months/years and billions on executing people?
It's clearly not working as an adequate deterrent if the 100+ countries that have abolished the death penalty are the evidence that we can go by.





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Only in cases of terroism,mass murder and then only if there is a shit ton of evidence beoynd any sort of doubt of innocence.



Pemalite said:
Dota2Gamer said:
Singapore has mandatory death sentence to any person being found with more than enough weight of illegal drugs. Singapore is one of the country with lowest prevalence of drug abuse. I don't buy this "Death penalty is expensive" or "death penalty is not a crime deterrent". I've googled the sources and they are from groups or websites with agenda, give me a break.


https://theconversation.com/theres-no-evidence-that-death-penalty-is-a-deterrent-against-crime-43227
http://www.abc.net.au/news/factcheck/2015-02-26/fact-check3a-does-the-death-penalty-deter3f/6116030
https://www.crikey.com.au/2005/11/28/death-penalty-facts-and-figures/

And I quote:

In Canada, for example, the homicide rate per 100,000 population fell from a peak of 3.09 in 1975, the year before the abolition of the death penalty for murder, to 2.41 in 1980, and since then it has declined further. In 2003, 27 years after abolition, the homicide rate was 1.73 per 100,000 population, 44 per cent lower than in 1975 and the lowest rate in three decades.

 

Homicide rates are not a good way to justify pro/against the death penalty. In Canada the homicide and attempted murder rate rose dramatically in the late 1960s. In 1963 the government ceased capital punishment as policy and in 1967 placed a moratorium. If you believe that the death penalty is a crime deterrent then the below chart will support that argument.

However this chart shows that the homicide rate has been increasing since the 1950s so perhaps it does not work as a deterrent.



Leadified said:

However this chart shows that the homicide rate has been increasing since the 1950s so perhaps it does not work as a deterrent.

Actually. What that chart is telling us is that it peaked at 1975 and has been in decline. Which is around the time Canada abolished capital punishment. - Which the quote I posted alludes to.

So essentially you have agreed with me and reinforced my argument with more evidence. Thank you.



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