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What about you?

Yes 119 36.73%
 
No 128 39.51%
 
I have to explain (please make a post) 11 3.40%
 
No, and I also oppose corporal punishment 38 11.73%
 
See results 28 8.64%
 
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Ka-pi96 said:

I don't think that makes the comparison flawed. "life for all" is still a decision, and when applied to those that don't want to live is very comparable to deciding to kill those that don't want to die.

I mean, I get why they do it (probably legal obligations and stuff like that) but the "life must be saved at all costs" ideology really irks me. I'd personally much rather be left to die instead of forced to live longer and suffer in agony for ages, especially if it was something terminal so instead of preventing your death they're just delaying it and prolonging your suffering instead. Actually, better than that even would just be a bullet to the head, that would be the humane thing to do.

I think that this is a largely different discussion.

If there is one option (help this person), there is no decision. Doctors are not by any means judging the worth of individuals and deciding who to save which makes it fundamentally different than the government judging the worth of individuals and deciding who to kill. 



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Ka-pi96 said:

Yes, there are differences. But fundamentally they both result in someone's life being taken away. That's the thing, from my point of view you're essentially arguing that it should be ok to kill someone. That's not a viewpoint I'll ever understand.

 

Ka-pi96 said:
Firstly, VGP you're a traitor that looks at other forums? :O

As for the topic itself, yes I do. 

Lmao




I may support an extra-jurisdictional killing of a great menace or terror to society of someone then having the death penalty formalized in our system.

People may find that abhorrent but that sort of exists in our system anyways.


As I said if a guy committed a terror attack and he is killed in a raid even unarmed, would people really care?

Ka-pi96 said:

Nice quote find :O

I just don't see killing someone and executing someone as the same though. Basically I don't think those that take the rights of others deserve any themselves. That would include the right to life. I dunno, maybe that makes me a hypocrite? But I just don't see the lives of a innocent people as equal to those of murderers.

I don't really think what you said was hypocritical, I just wanted to be an ass because I found the contradiction funny : ^ ) 



In principal, I'm against it, and don't think it's logical to commit the same action on someone for which they're being punished for, alongside the other obvious problems with it.

I'll say I'm a bit flexible though...and acknowledge there are some cases where rehabiliation is impossible and/or keeping them alive is a severe detriment. I just find those cases to be exceptions for the most part.



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No. The state should not have power over life and death, even if the person deserves it. The state can't get it 100% right anyways.



Death is an escape, it's not a punishment for the guilty 

The Innocent can and are put to death



No. There have been far to many cases of people getting wrongfully convicted. You can't bring somebody back from the dead if you execute them for a crime they did not commit.



Ka-pi96 said:

I just don't see killing someone and executing someone as the same though. Basically I don't think those that take the rights of others deserve any themselves. That would include the right to life. I dunno, maybe that makes me a hypocrite? But I just don't see the lives of a innocent people as equal to those of murderers.

I kill people who kill people because killing people is wrong. Nope, not hypocritical. On a serious note, ending a life is the same as ending a life. Changing a word from killing to the word execution doesn't change the outcome.



Only for pedophiles and mass murderers and it should be quick and cheap. None of this business where they spend years on death row.