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Forums - Sales Discussion - Nintendo Switch exceeds 2.6m sales in the US; Mario Odyssey exceeds 1.1m in the US

flashfire926 on 03 November 2017
Farsala said:
flashfire926 said:

PS4 seems like a great console (I dont ownone myself, looking to get one soon), and I'm sure that it derserves all the success it has gotten.  However, to me the pro variant was completely pointless. Sony was and still is comfortably ahead than its competitors, and its not like the pro caused a huge influx of sales. It doesnt cause harm, but it doesnt benefit them either. Its just..... there. 1 in 5 PS4's sold being a pro seems sorta dissapointing to me. The PS4 would have still kept the monumental momentum, with or without the pro.

It's purpose from day 1 was to make Sony more money. They didn't push the hardware limits at all, but they noticed a market for a mid gen upgrade and so they pulled the trigger a year ahead of the XB1X. The XB1X on the other hand, as far as I can tell barely breaks even. MS wants a better XB brand and good faith from consumers, thus XB1X. MS barely makes any money from HW anymore, so they aren't too worried about the XB1X.

I never looked at it that way, so you may be right. The profit margin is probably higher. but you gotta wonder, if this product gives you more profit, why not advertise it more? The launch seemed very low-key, and I would expect more than a 1 in 5 rate when the price difference isnt that much (with the exception of holiday months).



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

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Slimebeast on 03 November 2017
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Slimebeast said:

Bold: funnily that's actually something I've scratched by head over all the time since I've started following console sales ten years ago. Why are the Japan sales numbers for Sony and others so small for a country with 127 million people and a population supposedly so crazy about video games?

Because Japanese gamers care more about portability on average than a home experience. The 3DS outsold the PS2 over there. The PS2 sold 150 million and the 3DS sold 65+ million. Portability has just been progressively more important for Japanese consumers, or has become more attractive. And to be clear that's not a dig at the PS2, 20+ million sales is nothing to scaw at. 

Yes, but even if u factor in portability, I think on a per capita basis the USA clearly and consistently has outsold Japan in the last few console generations.



StarDoor on 03 November 2017
Slimebeast said:
StarDoor said:

Okay, have you read anything at all in this thread? I'm honestly confused at how you missed pretty much all of the relevant information.

From the OP:

"The total number of Nintendo Switch systems sold in the United States through the end of October now stands at more than 2.6 million."

Nintendo announced that Switch sales in the United States alone were over 2.6 million by the end of October. In this thread, we were also discussing their previous announcment that Switch had passed 2 million in the United States by the end of September.

If you want to hear about the Americas as a whole, Nintendo shipped 3.11 million Switch units by the end of September.

Finally, 8 months versus 48 months is about your comment that Switch sales are unimpressive because they're 10% (which isn't true, 2.6 / 20 is not 10%) of PS4 sales, when Switch has been out for 8 months with zero holiday seasons, and PS4 has been out for 48 months and 4 holiday seasons.

Okay, sorry. It's good that you bring perspective to this and explain. I now realize that a few years from now, the Switch sales numbers will be several dozen million worldwide.

In my defense though, my reaction was quite similar to this Colin Moriarty guy, whoever that is:

"Colin Moriarty ✔ @notaxation

Wait, the Switch has only sold two million units in the US since it launched? And that's considered successful? The industry is-a changin'."

Colin Moriarty was brought up to be mocked because his statment is illogical given that, in the United States, Switch in 2017 has been selling at the same pace as PS4 in 2014. Also, Colin is notorious for being blinded by his own bias toward Sony, since he famously wrote a sizeable IGN article about how Vita would be massively more successful than 3DS.



Farsala on 03 November 2017
flashfire926 said:
Farsala said:

It's purpose from day 1 was to make Sony more money. They didn't push the hardware limits at all, but they noticed a market for a mid gen upgrade and so they pulled the trigger a year ahead of the XB1X. The XB1X on the other hand, as far as I can tell barely breaks even. MS wants a better XB brand and good faith from consumers, thus XB1X. MS barely makes any money from HW anymore, so they aren't too worried about the XB1X.

I never looked at it that way, so you may be right. The profit margin is probably higher. but you gotta wonder, if this product gives you more profit, why not advertise it more? The launch seemed very low-key, and I would expect more than a 1 in 5 rate when the price difference isnt that much (with the exception of holiday months).

I personally think it would just bring more attention to the XB1X due to console wars. They are being very cautious saying that they can make an upgrade too, but they don't want consumers to associate the PS4 with being an inferior product. And I think PS4 Pro is much more profitable then XB1X, but the regular PS4 bundles probably make more money then PS4 Pro due to revisions/age.



Slimebeast on 03 November 2017
StarDoor said:
Slimebeast said:

Okay, sorry. It's good that you bring perspective to this and explain. I now realize that a few years from now, the Switch sales numbers will be several dozen million worldwide.

In my defense though, my reaction was quite similar to this Colin Moriarty guy, whoever that is:

"Colin Moriarty ✔ @notaxation

Wait, the Switch has only sold two million units in the US since it launched? And that's considered successful? The industry is-a changin'."

Colin Moriarty was brought up to be mocked because his statment is illogical given that, in the United States, Switch in 2017 has been selling at the same pace as PS4 in 2014. Also, Colin is notorious for being blinded by his own bias toward Sony, since he famously wrote a sizeable IGN article about how Vita would be massively more successful than 3DS.

Interesting. But my reaction was out of ignorance, I assure you, while the Colin guy's comment seems more to be from a fanboy semi-trolling.



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DaveTheMinion13 on 03 November 2017
OTBWY said:

Daaaammmnn.

Where's Colin Moriarty now?

Hes right though......Switch has been out 7 months.......Xbox One sold 2.6 million in 6 months in the US, and PS4 sold 3.1 million in the US in its first 6 montbs. 



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StarDoor on 03 November 2017
DaveTheMinion13 said:
OTBWY said:

Daaaammmnn.

Where's Colin Moriarty now?

Hes right though......Switch has been out 7 months.......Xbox One sold 2.6 million in 6 months in the US, and PS4 sold 3.1 million in the US in its first 6 montbs. 

Damn, Switch is that close even though PS4 and Xbox One launched in the holidays and sold 2.0M and 1.8M in 2013? That means Switch is selling even better than those two consoles in the non-holiday months! Awesome!

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LimaBean01 on 03 November 2017
StarDoor said:
DaveTheMinion13 said:

Hes right though......Switch has been out 7 months.......Xbox One sold 2.6 million in 6 months in the US, and PS4 sold 3.1 million in the US in its first 6 montbs. 

Damn, Switch is that close even though PS4 and Xbox One launched in the holidays and sold 2.0M and 1.8M in 2013? That means Switch is selling even better than those two consoles in the non-holiday months! Awesome!

and neither had as severe stock issues. the switch is just pacing behind ps4 and Wii worldwide and holidays havent even arrived.

remember yall, if nintendo meets 14 million this FY (resulting in 16.7m total for first 12 months), it will officially set the record for most sales in a console's first twelve months in the market.



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StreaK on 03 November 2017

Funny how EVERYONE seemed to just abandon the Wii U and suddenly everyone is buying the Switch.
It'd be like Sony just giving up on the PS3 and immediately moving forward to PS4.

I guess the Wii U name just sucked.



AngryLittleAlchemist on 03 November 2017
DaveTheMinion13 said:
OTBWY said:

Daaaammmnn.

Where's Colin Moriarty now?

Hes right though......Switch has been out 7 months.......Xbox One sold 2.6 million in 6 months in the US, and PS4 sold 3.1 million in the US in its first 6 montbs. 

And the Xbox One had hefty supply shipments to three major regions?

Oh wait, it didn't?

So it's not stretched out between three regions?

Interesting. It's almost like the Switch sell through rate is normal in relation to shipments sent to America. Almost like the console is divided heavily between 3 regions(two of which are major). 

Oh ... but hey! That's not excusable because the PS4, a console that has had like one shortage in it's history, had 3.1 by now! Silly me! (Even then, I doubt the PS4's shipments to Japan were taking away as heavily from the European and American shipments 7 months in as they were the Switch, but I won't bet on it)

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