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Forums - Sales Discussion - Nintendo Switch exceeds 2.6m sales in the US; Mario Odyssey exceeds 1.1m in the US

zorg1000 said:
Shadow1980 said:

The XBO & PS4 benefited from launching in the holidays. The PS4 launched on Nov. 15 and the XBO on Nov. 22. A week after that was Black Friday. Not a damn thing happened a week or two after the Switch was launched, and not 5-6 weeks later, either.

While we don't get weekly sales figures from NPD, the monthly data makes it clear that launching in November helps for sales in the first 5-8 weeks. Barring supply issues (a factor with the 360, which had a poor launch), average weekly sales in December don't simply crater. They almost always remain far above non-holiday month sales in the first calendar year. Meanwhile, we have a few systems that launched in the first half of the year besides the Switch, including the 3DS, PSP, and GBA. They all dropped significantly in month two, right down to about what the baseline was on up through October.

Furthermore, Japanese data suggests rapid drops past the first week for systems released outside Q4, while November launches don't see their weekly sales drop until after Christmas/New Years week. Q1-Q2 releases like the Switch, PS4, and 3DS exhibited "hockey stick" curves for sales in the first 13 weeks, while holiday releases like the Wii U, PS3, Wii, DS, and PSP did not, exhibiting other behaviors instead (the Wii U had a "flight of steps" curve, the PS3 had a "sine wave" curve, and the others had zig-zag curves).

While it would take me a while to collect the data and make the charts to put it in pictures to give you the "daily average" for a given month, the data is pretty clear: launching during the holidays helps.

If you look at the Switch's sales from the April-September period, it's doing fine, as that Q2+Q3 chart shows. It would've done better had it not been for supply issues. It should sell well over 2M in Q4, which isn't bad, either.

As for that "first full calendar year" chart, that's the first Jan.-Dec. period for every system on the chart except for the Switch. The Switch is the first "home console" that launched in March (yeah, I know, it's a "hybrid," but let's not argue over nomenclature). Every other console back to the PS2 was a Q4 release, the DC, N64, & PS1 were September releases, and the Saturn was a May release. The Switch missed the first two months of 2017, but the launch month makes up for having only one month in Q1. It's close enough to yet far enough from the beginning of the year to where for the sake of argument we can use the Switch's 2017 as a point of comparison to the PS4 & XBO's 2014, the 360's 2006, the PS2's 2001, etc.

Great post..........but he will find a way to deflect the point.

I know what you’re trying to do. At the end of the day, the PS4 will sell more than the Switch and that’s all that matters.



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Bajablo said:
Lawlight said:

The PS4 I think it would have done those same numbers in March. Plus, $300 vs $400.

so you are a alternate universe traveler and have checked that it happened in the other timeline and came back?
PS4 would have done nothing.. it is what IS and the rest is speculation.. ^fixed it for you

Funny you don’t say the same thing to Shadow who assumes that including the launch month of Match evens out with the first full calendar year comparison.



Lawlight said:
zorg1000 said:

Great post..........but he will find a way to deflect the point.

I know what you’re trying to do. At the end of the day, the PS4 will sell more than the Switch and that’s all that matters.

Hahaha you just proved my last post:

"For some people having their system of choice do well isnt enough, they have to downplay the success of others and that is exactly what Lawlight is known for."



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

This whole daily average thing started with Microsofts PR spin back for launch month to make it seem it did better than PS4. This whole daily average for launch months is ridiculous.



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Lawlight said:
OTBWY said:

Daaaammmnn.

Where's Colin Moriarty now?

Why is he being quoted here? I don’t see what he said wrong. People were saying that the 3DS was beasting in the US and when he checked the sales, it was at 2M.

Because he is obviously wrong (like graphs showed) and furthermore he is obvious Sony fanboy and Nintendo hater. Fact that you dont see whats here is a wrong tells a lot. :)

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RolStoppable said:
Lawlight said:

I know what you’re trying to do. At the end of the day, the PS4 will sell more than the Switch and that’s all that matters.

The PS4 probably won't finish with higher lifetime sales than Switch in the USA, so your fear is justified.

Maybe, maybe not. It means nothing if the Switch doesn’t win worldwide. So is my fear of the Switch beating the PS4 WW justified?



brute said:
This whole daily average thing started with Microsofts PR spin back for launch month to make it seem it did better than PS4. This whole daily average for launch months is ridiculous.

It’s not dissimilar to the spin I am seeing from Shadow’s charts. I mean he is the guy who thought it was possible for the PS4 to not outsell the Wii.



Lawlight said:
RolStoppable said:

The PS4 probably won't finish with higher lifetime sales than Switch in the USA, so your fear is justified.

Maybe, maybe not. It means nothing if the Switch doesn’t win worldwide. So is my fear of the Switch beating the PS4 WW justified?

Thats your fear, that Switch will beat PS4 WW!? :D

PS4 is on path to be second best selling console of all time, and Switch is also doing great and we still don't know full potential of Switch, but is really matter who will win at end!?



Miyamotoo said:
Lawlight said:

Maybe, maybe not. It means nothing if the Switch doesn’t win worldwide. So is my fear of the Switch beating the PS4 WW justified?

Thats your fear, that Switch will beat PS4 WW!? :D

PS4 is on path to be second best selling console of all time, and Switch is also doing great and we still don't know full potential of Switch, but is really matter who will win at end!?

You didn’t read it correctly - it’s obvious that I know that the Switch will never outsell the PS4 WW. In fact, I think the PS4 will outsell the WiiU and the Switch combined.

Yes, it does matter who will win. That’s the whole reason this website was created and why people discuss sales.



Lawlight said:
Miyamotoo said:

Thats your fear, that Switch will beat PS4 WW!? :D

PS4 is on path to be second best selling console of all time, and Switch is also doing great and we still don't know full potential of Switch, but is really matter who will win at end!?

You didn’t read it correctly - it’s obvious that I know that the Switch will never outsell the PS4 WW. In fact, I think the PS4 will outsell the WiiU and the Switch combined.

Yes, it does matter who will win. That’s the whole reason this website was created and why people discuss sales.

I read corectly, and your have fear that Switch will beat PS4 WW. :D PS4 will most likly sell more than Switch at end, but thats not given, we still dont know full potential of Switch, how many revisions or how long life will have.

Maybe for you is matter who will win, for majority of people here doesn't really matter who will win in sales.