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I'd like to point out that Sony won't cut the price of the PS4 based on the Amazon charts. I've been saying for the longest time now that Sony will cut the price of the PS4 this year (fiscal year), not because of some silly list and console 'race' but because it will be part of their ongoing strategy. People asked 'why' but now the PS4 is well behind in the Amazon charts, they're also calling for a price cut. That's a knee jerk reaction.

Sony have a target for the fiscal year. If that target is within grasp, regardless of whether they sell more or less than their competitors, they'll hold off cutting the price for as long as possible but that doesn't change the fact 'now is the time' for that price cut. It has NOTHING to do with the other consoles and everything to do with how Sony as a business works.

Stop thinking in the short term and start thinking in the long term. Start by considering what games Sony have coming next year and what bundles and deals Sony have for this year.

Relax.

 

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Playstation_awaiter said:
ThisGuyFooks said:

PS4 1Tb at 200 bucks Confirmed, let's see how many units it moves on BF!

P.D. You can buy a PS4 and a PSVR wit Gran Turismo Sport for the price of an Xbox One X. 

Sony spooked? Should have dropped pros price. 

What you think Sony just rushed this offer out... these things are planned well in advance. It's obvious they are going to go for best value up against the XBX because its expensive. Why do you think they are pushing Pro adverts now, and offering good included deals. Consumer goes I can buy a XBOXB console or I can buy a Sony console and VR, or a Sony console and 4 games etc - so much better offer.

Sony may drop the price a bit on the pro, but they know they probably don't need to, MS are selling mainly to upgraders like they did with the S, they won't panic.

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GribbleGrunger said:
I'd like to point out that Sony won't cut the price of the PS4 based on the Amazon charts. I've been saying for the longest time now that Sony will cut the price of the PS4 this year (fiscal year), not because of some silly list and console 'race' but because it will be part of their ongoing strategy. People asked 'why' but now the PS4 is well behind in the Amazon charts, they're also calling for a price cut. That's a knee jerk reaction.

Sony have a target for the fiscal year. If that target is within grasp, regardless of whether they sell more or less than their competitors, they'll hold off cutting the price for as long as possible but that doesn't change the fact 'now is the time' for that price cut. It has NOTHING to do with the other consoles and everything to do with how Sony as a business works.

Stop thinking in the short term and start thinking in the long term. Start by considering what games Sony have coming next year and what bundles and deals Sony have for this year.

Relax.

Exactly, glad to see many people in this thread with logic. If Sony sell as much as they think they'll sell, they'll leave a longer term price drop to prop up slower running months when sales don't do as well. They'll do offers obviously because thats what the bottom tier product is now about but bundles are still their way of trying to push the price up, rather than doing the fire sale concept that MS have done over the years, which has just left the Xbox brand tainted and up until now the Xbox One doing rather poorly this year.

Sony don't need to react because of one months amazon charts (which to be fair they haven't been looking like they were doing that great for a few months, but were massively ahead of XBOX and only slightly behind Switch, so I don't think Amazon is showing the true picture at the moment, its a bit muddier than that.

I hope all do well this Christmas, but lets not do what happens every year and a few panic and say Sony need to drop the price. I hope they drop the price because I would like a 2nd Pro, but they've had a great year, and next year will also be fantastic.



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Wonder if retailers will soft drop the price of the WW2 and BF2 bundles to $250 on black friday or just drop all slim ps4s to $199. Would be amazing to see 3 ps4 bundles in the top 10 on the Amazon chart.

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If Nintendo can make enough switches, it will crush the other consoles this christmas.

whatever said:
If Nintendo can make enough switches, it will crush the other consoles this christmas.

Absolutely. Imo, Switch in 2018 will likely have a double 2 million month in November/December, the only reason this won't be the case in 2017 is because Nintendo won't be able to ship that much.



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ThisGuyFooks said:
To be honest, im honestly surprised that Sony wont be cutting the price of the PS4 PRO.

That was basically the most obvious strategy against the newly released Xbox One X.

This is interesting...

Yeah, idt anyone really gets it. It was such an obvious tactical option for them to take some of the wind out of XBO X’s sails at launch, pretty much everyone thought Sony would do it. The only reason I can think of that Sony didn’t is if they were unimpressed with XBO X’s preorder numbers. But XBO X seems to be doing quite well, so seems quite nonsensical on Sony’s part. 



whatever said:
If Nintendo can make enough switches, it will crush the other consoles this christmas.

I disagree, switch is readily in stock everywhere.... but I do not see it outselling the playstation 4 or matching it's sales in EUROPE. A $199 PS4 vs a $299 nintendo system in the U.S is also significant especially with all the games on the ps that you do not get on the switch.... 

 

also on another note, xbox one x sales are already dropping on amazon..... my suspicion is that the system will sell mainly to current xbox one hardcore guys vs the GP..... $499 is a lot for a system with 3rd party games in 4K. 



 

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leo-j said:
whatever said:
If Nintendo can make enough switches, it will crush the other consoles this christmas.

I disagree, switch is readily in stock everywhere.... but I do not see it outselling the playstation 4 or matching it's sales in EUROPE. A $199 PS4 vs a $299 nintendo system in the U.S is also significant especially with all the games on the ps that you do not get on the switch.... 

 

also on another note, xbox one x sales are already dropping on amazon..... my suspicion is that the system will sell mainly to current xbox one hardcore guys vs the GP..... $499 is a lot for a system with 3rd party games in 4K. 

You're in the Amazon USA topic here buddy. 

Also let Sony lose money by selling their PS4s at $200, Nintendo will make bank this holiday. 

PS4 has no remarkable holiday titles this year while the Switch has Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

And of course the XOX sales are dropping, it's sold out... 



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