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Intrinsic on 20 November 2017
peachbuggy said:
Kerotan said:

Sony should be praised for offering a masterpiece so cheap. They could sell a lot of copies at $40 or $30 but they choose to give us can epic bargain. 

Yeh we all saw how it was selling at $40, hence why it's now at $20. I think we all know that's the only way it would outsell BOTW tbh.

Isn't it supposed to be a good thing that more people can get to play the game?

And I don't get whats with people that are for prices remaining higher as if they are getting a cut of whatever nintendo makes. If sony invests $50M into making a game and projects to sell 2M copies at $60/game making $120M.... and they hit that target... how is it then somehow a bad thing if they drop the price to $30 so the can sell another 2M copies?

And are we forgetting that we are talking about a new IP up against an IP that has been around before i even started playing games?

Are we also forgetting taht this is something sony can afford to do due to the amount of money they make from all the third party games on their platform? I am lost.



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AngryLittleAlchemist on 20 November 2017
Intrinsic said:
peachbuggy said:

Yeh we all saw how it was selling at $40, hence why it's now at $20. I think we all know that's the only way it would outsell BOTW tbh.

Isn't it supposed to be a good thing that more people can get to play the game?

And I don't get whats with people that are for prices remaining higher as if they are getting a cut of whatever nintendo makes. If sony invests $50M into making a game and projects to sell 2M copies at $60/game making $120M.... and they hit that target... how is it then somehow a bad thing if they drop the price to $30 so the can sell another 2M copies?

And are we forgetting that we are talking about a new IP up against an IP that has been around before i even started playing games?

Are we also forgetting taht this is something sony can afford to do due to the amount of money they make from all the third party games on their platform? I am lost.

It is just a matter of perspective. No point in arguing



Jranation on 20 November 2017
peachbuggy said:
Kerotan said:

Sony should be praised for offering a masterpiece so cheap. They could sell a lot of copies at $40 or $30 but they choose to give us can epic bargain. 

Yeh we all saw how it was selling at $40, hence why it's now at $20. I think we all know that's the only way it would outsell BOTW tbh.

This! So people are buying it because of its low price? 



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KLAMarine on 20 November 2017

The power of convenience.



flashfire926 on 20 November 2017
Aura7541 said:
ironmanDX said:
With a switch at 4th and 12th... I'd say it's probably still outselling the ps4. Next ps4 is all the way back at 75.
Given how long the Scorpio and XIX were in the top 10 for while the ps4s were really struggling to get into the top 50 I think that the damage is done. Especially considering xbox had several other sku's in the top 50. It's going to be hard for Sony to catch up. At least going by Amazon. Other retailers are something else and who knows what will happen on black Friday.

Though neither the Scorpio nor the XB1X hit #1 whereas the PS4 did before falling to #2 behind a $40 PS+ 1-year membership card. We don't really know how much of a difference is it to be #1/#2 vs any rank below that. In addition, there's also a difference in how much the #2 selling product is doing now vs how much the #2 was doing at the beginning of November. The rankings only tell us how much a product is selling relative to other products.

Scorpio did hit #1 for an hour tho :P

Then the horizon had a price cut to $20 and stole the spot away.



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WebMasterFlex on 20 November 2017
p0isonparadise said:

3 hours since last update.

HARDWARE:
#02 PS4 Fool's Edition (same)
#04 NS Neon (same)
#11 NS Grey (up 1)
#26 PSVR Skyrim (down 4)
#27 XB1X (same)
#36 XB1 Battlefield (same)
#39 SNES Classic (down 1)
#51 PSVR GTS (up 1)
#72 PS4 Pro (up 3)
#87 N2DSXL B+T (up 1)
#89 PS4 Star Wars (down 5)
#98 XB1 Forza (down 3)
#99 XB1 (re-entry)

SOFTWARE (Pre-orders Only)**:
None at the moment

Does not affect this month: *
Software outside of the month only gets added if it's in the top 20: **

PS4: 3 in the top 100 / 1 in the top 50 / 1 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 1 in the top 5
XB1: 4 in the top 100 / 3 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
NIS:  2 in the top 100 / 2 in the top 50 / 2 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 1 in the top 5

Fool's Edition



PAOerfulone on 20 November 2017

True, the NS’s library is limited in comparison to the PS4 and Xbox One, but those systems have been in the market for 4 years.

The Switch is not even one year in and it already has:

3 Mario games (Odyssey, MK8D, Rabbids), 2 Sonic games (Mania and Forces), Breath of the Wild, Splatoon 2, Pokken DX, Minecraft, Skyrim, Doom, NBA 2K18, FIFA 18, ARMS, Fire Emblem Warriors, a whole plathora of indies, and in a few weeks, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, As far as first year lineups go, the Switch has one of the greatest if not THE greatest first year out of all the video game systems in history.

And of course, we’re still expecting Metroid, Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Pokemon...

The Switch is going to see a lot of games released and a lot games come and go.

I’m saying Zelda is one that is going to still be around and among the best sellers for a long time.

There are games you buy for your system, and then there are games you a buy a system for. Breath of the Wild is one of these games for the Switch. Just like Super Mario World was for the SNES, Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time were for the N64, Crash Bandicoot and Final Fantasy VII were for the PS1, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas was for the PS2, Halo 1 was for the Xbox, Super Smash Bros. Melee was for thr Gamecube, Pokemon Red and Blue were for the Game Boy. 

Breath of the Wild is that type of game for the Switch. 



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palou on 20 November 2017

Oh god, supply issues at their worst in a while, now, in Japan



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Lawlight on 20 November 2017
PAOerfulone said:
Intrinsic said:

I have stopped sipping on that coolaid a loong loong loong time ago. 

Now I have just learnt that there will always be yet another greatest game ever made. 

Doesn't make the game any less big than what it is.
The fact of the matter is, people were willing to pay $360 + tax, minimum, to play just Zelda on the Switch. The game sold more copies (2.76) than the Switch shipped units (2.74) in its first month, over a 100% attach rate. There are very, very, VERY few franchises capable of that.
And it has consistently remained among the top selling games 8 months after its release, despite new releases coming out for the Switch. Kind of like how Grand Theft Auto V has kept selling consistently great despite coming out on PS4 3 years ago AND being a port. Breath of the Wild is the Switch's GTA V. It's gonna keep going, and going, and going, and going, for a looong time.

The game did not sell more copies than what the Switch shipped - it shipped more copies. Which means that the rest was sitting on shelves.

And the Switch hasn’t had so many releases that it would affect Zelda’s sales. Just looking at the US, according to VGC, only 2 games sold more than 1M (we can add SMO to the list) so not much in terms of competition.



UltimateGamer1982 on 20 November 2017

Hmmm after looking at the monthly’s ranking, according to amazon anyway, Xbox might actually somehow not win November after all. PS4 is currently #13 for November with gray switch at 12 and neon at 9. Scorpio at 20 and X at 22.

Interesting. If they somehow lose November then they are truly done for this gen imo.

My new prediction is now Switch>PS4>Xbox. Let’s see what the coming days do to the rankings.