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Intrinsic said:
ChaosReich said:

Shit bro, when the fuck did he say that! Thats horrendously ignorant and biased as fuck. That top statement makes me so mad for a few reasons. Firstly, youve no idea the quality of those other "inferior" games if you havent played them and judging from your fanboy tone, you havent. Secondly, i dont own the Wii U or the Switch but because im logical, free thinking and not butt fucked by some cringey need to be a fanboy, i can absolutely see that those two platforms have some amazing looking games yet you claim that AAA publishers could put all their best games, not a few, ALL and it wouldnt matter cause Nintendo has higher quality games............what in the absolute fuck kinda dumb statement is that. Dark Souls, Witcher 3, Doom, Ratchet and Clank, Forza, these are all AAA games that i imagine can stand shoulder to shoulder with your Mario and Zelda and Star Fox and Mario Kart etc.

 

Dude, if you are going to be a blithering idiot fanboy, make your own thread and jerk all your friends off, i want a thread free of that elementary school behavior.

I literally had no words to address what he was saying. Like I do not believe that someone in this day and age with all the internet and stuff could be so biased and ignorant. I'm still finding it hard to believe he's serious.... I wanna believe he's just fucking with me lol.

Like who says stuff like that? 

And thats the real scary thing, he probably hasn't played 90% of all those games he just categorically placed in the mediocre zone. Thats teh literal definition of ignorance right there.

Its even more sad that people with that mentality refuse to acknowledge their pitfalls. 



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Intrinsic said:
Baddman said:

I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm saying its an understandable business policy. So I don't get why folk don't understand that is the main reason Nintendo doesn't drop prices on their games as quickly as other publishers.  It's an understandable business policy even if some fans and consumers may not like it.

IKR? Then again, after this thread and seeing some nintendo fans saying its a "quality" thing? I can kinda see why nintendo keeps getting away with this. Lol... nintendo games remain expensive because they are better than everything else out there..... lmao.

Why do you think Mario Party 10 is still $37 on Amazon? Pure quality, mate.



depends on what you're referring to- if you're talking NEW games for current gen systems and the fact that, say, a Mario Kart or Pokemon game will stay roughly the same price (for a new copy) for the majority of their active lifetimes (when their hardware is current)- it's due to Nintendo just being aggressive and not dropping the prices of stock for retailers at any point. Nintendo realizes that people who buy their systems, whether early in a lifecycle or late, are going to universally generally want to get the big first party games (Pokemon and Mario). So they don't NEED to lower the prices on software, the games will sell regardless

 

if you're talking about long term why Nintendo first party games as a whole seem to retain their value so much better than most others- it's due to them having a gigantic nostalgic fanbase. Mario Kart or Zelda on the Nintendo 64 remain quite expensive to buy complete because they have unusually rabid fanbases in the Nintendo corner. Nintendo also, as you all well know, has a tendency to do things their own way. So the majority of past generations there has been something about the games, hardware, software as a whole- that makes them often more appealing to collect for.  Whether it's because people enjoy cartridges/physical media, or some unique spin (mini discs for the Gamecube). 

 

Really the reasons Nintendo games tend to remain high in price, whether new or vintage games we're talking, in the end is due to the big N having the most rabid fanbase in the industry who are constantly willing to pay a premium for their titles.  

 

I will admit it is weird to see Horizon Zero Dawn randomly drop to like $30 sometimes on Amazon, and then to basically never see Breath of the Wild under $50 (new), despite them releasing at the same period of time. But it all comes down to Nintendo feeling comfortable with not lowering prices because sales will maintain for the most part. With software it works, sometimes hardware not so much (some would obviously argue Nintendo should have lowered the price of the Wii U). 



mountaindewslave said:

I will admit it is weird to see Horizon Zero Dawn randomly drop to like $30 sometimes on Amazon, and then to basically never see Breath of the Wild under $50 (new), despite them releasing at the same period of time. But it all comes down to Nintendo feeling comfortable with not lowering prices because sales will maintain for the most part. With software it works, sometimes hardware not so much (some would obviously argue Nintendo should have lowered the price of the Wii U). 

I don't think its weird..... sony sold the game at full price to over 2M people, then at $40 or so to at least another 1M people, then to God knows how many more people at less than that. Thats a good return on tehir investment especially when you consider that they have a ton of third parties paying them royalties.

If anything, I have an issue with why digital games cost the same thing with physical copies... though I understand why that is.... still bugs me to all hell and back though.



Intrinsic said:
ChaosReich said:

Shit bro, when the fuck did he say that! Thats horrendously ignorant and biased as fuck. That top statement makes me so mad for a few reasons. Firstly, youve no idea the quality of those other "inferior" games if you havent played them and judging from your fanboy tone, you havent. Secondly, i dont own the Wii U or the Switch but because im logical, free thinking and not butt fucked by some cringey need to be a fanboy, i can absolutely see that those two platforms have some amazing looking games yet you claim that AAA publishers could put all their best games, not a few, ALL and it wouldnt matter cause Nintendo has higher quality games............what in the absolute fuck kinda dumb statement is that. Dark Souls, Witcher 3, Doom, Ratchet and Clank, Forza, these are all AAA games that i imagine can stand shoulder to shoulder with your Mario and Zelda and Star Fox and Mario Kart etc.

 

Dude, if you are going to be a blithering idiot fanboy, make your own thread and jerk all your friends off, i want a thread free of that elementary school behavior.

I literally had no words to address what he was saying. Like I do not believe that someone in this day and age with all the internet and stuff could be so biased and ignorant. I'm still finding it hard to believe he's serious.... I wanna believe he's just fucking with me lol.

Like who says stuff like that? 

And thats the real scary thing, he probably hasn't played 90% of all those games he just categorically placed in the mediocre zone. Thats teh literal definition of ignorance right there.

That is exactly what makes your comment so mindblowing.  If you look to the switch total software sales it are all nintendo games while Sony/MS are almost full with third party games. People who buy a Nintendo console buy more first party games than they do when they buy a Sony/MS console.






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konnichiwa said:

That is exactly what makes your comment so mindblowing.  If you look to the switch total software sales it are all nintendo games while Sony/MS are almost full with third party games. People who buy a Nintendo console buy more first party games than they do when they buy a Sony/MS console.

WTF are you talking about? That has nothing to do with what I am saying.

I am fully aware that people that buy nintendo consoles buy it for nintendo software, hell even EA is backing off the switch right now as they did with the WiiU.

This argument here is about why the nintendo games holds their prices for as long as they do. The real reason to that is simply nintendo seeing to it that it stays at that price. But some on in this thread will have you believe that its because you find the best games in the world  on nintendo hardware and their price stays that way because every other game on other platforms whose prices drops do so because they lack the "quality" of nintendo games.

If you can't see how ignorant and ridiculous a statement like that is then I won't know what to say to you either.



Nintendo doesn't lower prices for their games and when they do it's only a 10 or 20 dollar cut



I read somewhere that Nintendo pays a special delivery security fee to prevent the prices from being dropped by retailers.

I'm sure i didn't say that right, but it is something like that.



celador said:

lack of competition

look at Horizon for instance, and all the different styled RPGs that released all around it and since. 8 months on, and Zelda has yet to have one RPG to compete against.

it's funny to see a DLC and microtransactions argument though, given Zelda has DLC and Nintendo have a load of Amiibo bullshit in their games now

hell.. it is re-usable DLC for 12$ (ish what they cost here converted) that is also a figurine.. i have them mostly for the figurine part but sometimes they do something cool in a game :)



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Intrinsic said:
konnichiwa said:

That is exactly what makes your comment so mindblowing.  If you look to the switch total software sales it are all nintendo games while Sony/MS are almost full with third party games. People who buy a Nintendo console buy more first party games than they do when they buy a Sony/MS console.

WTF are you talking about? That has nothing to do with what I am saying.

I am fully aware that people that buy nintendo consoles buy it for nintendo software, hell even EA is backing off the switch right now as they did with the WiiU.

This argument here is about why the nintendo games holds their prices for as long as they do. The real reason to that is simply nintendo seeing to it that it stays at that price. But some on in this thread will have you believe that its because you find the best games in the world  on nintendo hardware and their price stays that way because every other game on other platforms whose prices drops do so because they lack the "quality" of nintendo games.

If you can't see how ignorant and ridiculous a statement like that is then I won't know what to say to you either.

Don't know what more I can say, you know that people buy nintendo consoles for first party, you know the sales and see they sell well, you can check metacritic and see they have recently two of the best rated games in years it would not make any sense to drop the price. Their aren't many games who do the same, the only one I can think of is Minecraft except for a free trial in its early beta release it never got a price drop and never was on sale on PSN/Eshop/PC/xbox live.