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RolStoppable said:
ChaosReich said:

Fair question. I am neither, i just hate stupidity and irrational thinking and everything this poster embodies. Plus, he has that wacko mentality that becaue he owns a system that he deems superior, he is superior. Even if he technically owned the objectively greatest console of all time, its pretty weird to put your self worth in that.

So yea, im no troll but i will absolutely troll that little weirdo till he cries foul to Reggie fils-aime, and then, i hope he gets ass raped by a Stockholm syndrome peach.

Have you forgotten that I dropped a message that the mod team shouldn't ban you for your posts?

How do you troll someone until he cries foul when nothing you do bothers that person? You have an irrational goal.

I couldnt care less about your claim of not being bothered bro, like id believe your delusioned ass anyways right?!? You can say what you want but as it stands so far as i see it, you shouldnt be allowed the freedom of speech since your input isnt even free speech, its some weird amalgam of insecurity and tomfoolery used to disguise your lack of decent thought process. Basically, its a programmed response from a defeated individual, nothing insightful or new, just defensive.



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ChaosReich said:

Yea well too late, you werent as blatantly ignorant as your dumbshit counterpart so i naturally sided with you. If it offended you than oh well, i just cant respect in the slightest his type of thinking. If i ever become some weird drone PS4 or whatever fanboy, i hope to get banned from this site cause i couldn't live that down anyways.

I am very practically stating what Rol says throughout the thread, maybe just in different terms. No where in this thread have I seen Rol proclaim Nintendo is the only one to make quality games, in fact, the last post where you had an outburst against Rol's point was one where he very specifically stated that third-party games on only Nintendo consoles themselves can't compete, not across the entire spectrum of consoles. Your points clash with his logic every step of the way, simply because you seem to be mis-interpreting his points, for whatever reason. 

You must have known Rol's posting style and preferences before this thread to be able to accuse him of being a fanboy and write-off his analysis as you very easily agreed with me and yet I can more easily be painted a Nintendo fanboy without prior knowledge simply due to my username. 



ChaosReich said:
RolStoppable said:

Have you forgotten that I dropped a message that the mod team shouldn't ban you for your posts?

How do you troll someone until he cries foul when nothing you do bothers that person? You have an irrational goal.

I couldnt care less about your claim of not being bothered bro, like id believe your delusioned ass anyways right?!? You can say what you want but as it stands so far as i see it, you shouldnt be allowed the freedom of speech since your input isnt even free speech, its some weird amalgam of insecurity and tomfoolery used to disguise your lack of decent thought process. Basically, its a programmed response from a defeated individual, nothing insightful or new, just defensive.

I reported you. Generally, when someone resorts to ad hominem, they've either ran out of ammo for their argument or they're frustrated with their opponent enough to lose control of their emotions. As much as I disagree with Rol on things and that I don't really like him all that much, he still should be treated as well as anyone else. I don't know if you're an alt or inactive person, but you should a llittle self-control if you want to stick around here. 



Miguel_Zorro said:
Aeolus451 said:

I reported you. Generally, when someone resorts to ad hominem, they've either ran out of ammo for their argument or they're frustrated with their opponent enough to lose control of their emotions. As much as I disagree with Rol on things and that I don't really like him all that much, he still should be treated as well as anyone else. I don't know if you're an alt or inactive person, but you should a llittle self-control if you want to stick around here. 

One  the first bolded part, please avoid "I reported you" posts.

On the second bolded part, I think it's already too late for that.  Double checking the post history but I think the next move is pretty clear at this point.

Sorry, I should have left that first part out in that case.



celador said:

lack of competition

look at Horizon for instance, and all the different styled RPGs that released all around it and since. 8 months on, and Zelda has yet to have one RPG to compete against.

it's funny to see a DLC and microtransactions argument though, given Zelda has DLC and Nintendo have a load of Amiibo bullshit in their games now

You got to be kidding, right? What amazing big scale RPG did PS4 have on its first 8 months to begin with? Forgot the "PS4 has no games"? It had little competition on its first year. You're comparing something that's on the market for 4 years with something that just released. But when it comes to the price, it was always like that, regardless of more or less competition.



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RolStoppable said:

I can agree with the bolded sentence, but not the following one. The stubbornness is on your part, hence why things like this happen. You hold a lot of prejudice against Nintendo fans in general and me in particular.

And so I made a prediction that is going to b off the mark..... I was wrong. Nothing wrong with that. Its only wrong if I stand here and not aknowledge I was wrong and try and spin what I was saying.

I do not have some sort of prejudice against nintendo fans, I have a prejudice if you want to call it against people that display ignorance or make ridiculous statements. Which for some reason seems to happen a lot with some nintendo fans. 

Look at my thread/post hitory...... in all the years I have been here I have never, NEVER. NOT ONCE. Made a claim or talk down an actual game that I have not played or been dismissive of games in general simply because they are on another platform. That kinda behaviour irks me to no end simply cause I can't understand why anyone would do something like that.

The likes of you? Just blatantly talked down pretty much every other game on every other platform in existance as if it was nothing.

The funny thing is that you are even somewhat saying what I am saying which is that this is something nintendo is doing, none of this will be happening if you had just said but to do it they have to also make good games like you eventually started saying. No one is arguing with nintendo making great games. Its that you chose to make it out to sound like every other game that sees a price cut lacks the quality of nintendo games in general.



RolStoppable said:
Intrinsic said:

And so I made a prediction that is going to b off the mark..... I was wrong. Nothing wrong with that. Its only wrong if I stand here and not aknowledge I was wrong and try and spin what I was saying.

I do not have some sort of prejudice against nintendo fans, I have a prejudice if you want to call it against people that display ignorance or make ridiculous statements. Which for some reason seems to happen a lot with some nintendo fans. 

Look at my thread/post hitory...... in all the years I have been here I have never, NEVER. NOT ONCE. Made a claim or talk down an actual game that I have not played or been dismissive of games in general simply because they are on another platform. That kinda behaviour irks me to no end simply cause I can't understand why anyone would do something like that.

The likes of you? Just blatantly talked down pretty much every other game on every other platform in existance as if it was nothing.

The funny thing is that you are even somewhat saying what I am saying which is that this is something nintendo is doing, none of this will be happening if you had just said but to do it they have to also make good games like you eventually started saying. No one is arguing with nintendo making great games. Its that you chose to make it out to sound like every other game that sees a price cut lacks the quality of nintendo games in general.

@bolded: The reason why it happens a lot with Nintendo fans is because of your prejudice against them. The post I linked is an example of that where you start off by taking a bunch of shots at Nintendo fans. The linked post also developed into a discussion where it was you who repeatedly made ignorant and ridiculous statements, so of course you were bound to encounter a strong opposition. That is likely to fuel your prejudice against Nintendo fans even more, because from your perspective it's the Nintendo fans who make the false statements. As for the question what is wrong, it's wrong if you keep your attitude of being dismissive of Nintendo fans despite being proven wrong before. In this thread you took huge issue with my statement that AAA third parties wouldn't be competitive with Nintendo games on Nintendo platforms, despite all the sales data backing up my claim. You consider me close-minded and ignorant despite all the evidence supporting this claim of mine.

Here's another example of why you clash with Nintendo fans: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=225842

Back to this thread right here, a fitting analogy for what I am saying is that the New England Patriots have been the highest quality team in the NFL since the start of this century and that's because they have had the most consistent quarterback and the best head coach in the league. You and others then freak out because you are fans of other teams that won Super Bowls during the same timeframe and because you are unable to acknowledge that the Patriots have been the best team.

Where the analogy doesn't fit is that I am not a fan of the Patriots.

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RolStoppable said:
outlawauron said:

This is completely false. Even the garbage half of the catalogue still remains at or near its initial MSRP well after release even in cases where it's completely flopped (as were the case with many late Wii U and 3DS titles). That said, at least Nintendo games go on temporary sales more often. I purchased Smash, MK, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions all at $30 and below on sales. I only imagine that Switch will have the same situation this Christmas or next.

You talk about completely false and follow it up with "garbage half of the catalogue"?

Are you going to defend the poor sales of games like Metroid Federation Force, Devil's Third, Codename Steam, and Star Fox Zero? This year has been much better for Nintendo (I don't think they've put anything too bad), but the notion that everything Nintendo publishes is gold is so odd. 2016 wasn't a good year by any measure.



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RolStoppable said:
outlawauron said:

Are you going to defend the poor sales of games like Metroid Federation Force, Devil's Third, Codename Steam, and Star Fox Zero? This year has been much better for Nintendo (I don't think they've put anything too bad), but the notion that everything Nintendo publishes is gold is so odd. 2016 wasn't a good year by any measure.

I didn't make a statement that everything Nintendo publishes is of high quality, so I have nothing to defend here. The thread title doesn't ask about all Nintendo games, but the average (=norm in this context) Nintendo game. The norm for Nintendo games is that they are quality products and some outliers don't change that.

You called half of Nintendo's output garbage, so you have certainly a lot more defending to do than me.

Not sure how take a figure of speech as literal for me and then not apply it to your post as well. Nintendo games get the high MSRP longer and it has nothing to do with the quality of the game. It can be a critical and commericial flop and still remain at its $40/50/60 pricepoint for years. You can say that they're just outliers, but when you have a single good game in 2016, and they all retain high price points, you don't get to dismiss an entire year's worth of output.

Edit: Forgot to look at 3DS, which had far larger output than the 7 or so Wii U games, but even combining them together. Much more below average than good.

Last edited by outlawauron - on 02 November 2017

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Because Nintendo is the Apple of video game companies. It's the "Don't hold your breath for a price drop" model, and it actually works.



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