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PS4 will outsell the Gameboy+Gameboy Color, 2018 to be peak year and other predictions

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SKMBlake said:
Areaz32 said:

PS4Pro launched in 2016 so that doesn't make any sense.

Launched in november 2016, and people bought it during 2017 (while PS4 Pro optimized games were released), I don't know how it doesn't make any sense to you.

Just like Xbox got its highest january this year since launch because of the Xbox One X.

So you think Xbox one x is going to get its highest january sales next year aswell?

My understanding is that a product sells the most upon release and then we will see if it has legs down the line.

You could argue that PS4Pro had legs through 2017 but i don't see why that wouldn't also be true for 2018 and 2019. 2017 isn't any different.

All games released after October 2016 supports PS4Pro so saying "PS4 Pro optimized games were released" doesn't make any sense because that happened in 2016 aswell and it will also happen in 2018. 

PS4 has an even better software line-up for 2018 so i don't see why it wouldn't sell better since that is the main difference between 2017 and 2018.



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Areaz32 said:
SKMBlake said:

Launched in november 2016, and people bought it during 2017 (while PS4 Pro optimized games were released), I don't know how it doesn't make any sense to you.

Just like Xbox got its highest january this year since launch because of the Xbox One X.

So you think Xbox one x is going to get its highest january sales next year aswell?

My understanding is that a product sells the most upon release and then we will see if it has legs down the line.

You could argue that PS4Pro had legs through 2017 but i don't see why that wouldn't also be true for 2018 and 2019. 2017 isn't any different.

All games released after October 2016 supports PS4Pro so saying "PS4 Pro optimized games were released" doesn't make any sense because that happened in 2016 aswell and it will also happen in 2018. 

PS4 has an even better software line-up for 2018 so i don't see why it wouldn't sell better since that is the main difference between 2017 and 2018.

I don't think Xbox One X's sales will be greater next year, I don't see the Xbox selling more than 50 millions in its lifetime.

2017 was the year where 2 new PS4 models were on the market, a cheaper one and a more powerful one. People who already owned a PS4 and wanted a PS4 Pro already bought it. I don't see why there would be a higher demand this year for both PS4 models, that's why I think the peak was in 2017.

I may be wrong, like many of us were wrong about many subjects here. If I'm wrong, I would go to the "I was wrong" thread and post it how I was wrong about the PS4's peak year.



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SKMBlake said:
Areaz32 said:

So you think Xbox one x is going to get its highest january sales next year aswell?

My understanding is that a product sells the most upon release and then we will see if it has legs down the line.

You could argue that PS4Pro had legs through 2017 but i don't see why that wouldn't also be true for 2018 and 2019. 2017 isn't any different.

All games released after October 2016 supports PS4Pro so saying "PS4 Pro optimized games were released" doesn't make any sense because that happened in 2016 aswell and it will also happen in 2018. 

PS4 has an even better software line-up for 2018 so i don't see why it wouldn't sell better since that is the main difference between 2017 and 2018.

I don't think Xbox One X's sales will be greater next year, I don't see the Xbox selling more than 50 millions in its lifetime.

2017 was the year where 2 new PS4 models were on the market, a cheaper one and a more powerful one. People who already owned a PS4 and wanted a PS4 Pro already bought it. I don't see why there would be a higher demand this year for both PS4 models, that's why I think the peak was in 2017.

I may be wrong, like many of us were wrong about many subjects here. If I'm wrong, I would go to the "I was wrong" thread and post it how I was wrong about the PS4's peak year.

And in 2018 there will still be two sony consoles on the market. And they stand to be cheaper.

I don't really know of this will be its peak year, personally I have my doubts..... but thats only beacuse like you I also believe that sony may not drop the price to $199 early enough or at all this year. 

But that brings up something else. As a company sony will want sales of the PS4 to improve or at the very least remain flat. They have the single biggest trump card yet to play and thats to hit that $199 price point. Now the only reason they don't do that is if they are estimating remaining at least flat this year... if between march and E3 or shortly after there is a slump in PS4 sales then be rest assured they will drop the price.

So if they aren't dropping the price, its because they are having a 20-18M year anyways and would take selling fewer consoles while making higher margins on every unit sold. If they drop they price it would be cause the year was trending much lower than that and the price drop coupled with the usual slew of strategic bundles will ensure they remain flat or beat last year.



But why 199$ and not 249$ ? The latter seems more plausible



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SKMBlake said:
Areaz32 said:

So you think Xbox one x is going to get its highest january sales next year aswell?

My understanding is that a product sells the most upon release and then we will see if it has legs down the line.

You could argue that PS4Pro had legs through 2017 but i don't see why that wouldn't also be true for 2018 and 2019. 2017 isn't any different.

All games released after October 2016 supports PS4Pro so saying "PS4 Pro optimized games were released" doesn't make any sense because that happened in 2016 aswell and it will also happen in 2018. 

PS4 has an even better software line-up for 2018 so i don't see why it wouldn't sell better since that is the main difference between 2017 and 2018.

I don't think Xbox One X's sales will be greater next year, I don't see the Xbox selling more than 50 millions in its lifetime.

2017 was the year where 2 new PS4 models were on the market, a cheaper one and a more powerful one. People who already owned a PS4 and wanted a PS4 Pro already bought it. I don't see why there would be a higher demand this year for both PS4 models, that's why I think the peak was in 2017.

I may be wrong, like many of us were wrong about many subjects here. If I'm wrong, I would go to the "I was wrong" thread and post it how I was wrong about the PS4's peak year.

2 new PS4 models were also on the market in 2016 and they will still be on the market in 2018 at likely a lower price."

"People who already owned a PS4 and wanted a PS4 Pro already bought it"

But with this logic they would have already upgraded back in 2016 since the console never dropped in price. Why did they buy it in 2017 then?

I am not trying to tell you that you are wrong, i am just trying to understand why you think what you think.

I personally think that there are a lot of mainstream games coming to PS4 this year that are ticking time bombs of success, and PS4 didn't have any of that in 2017 yet it still sold like crazy.



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Because of the game. There was no real reason to buy a PS4 Pro before 2017 and the "PS4 Pro patch" wasn't a real improvement or a reason to buy the console, only a few games in 2016 were optimized for the PS4 Pro like Uncharted 4. But almost all new AAA games in 2017 were made for the PS4 Pro, and I don't need to mention Horizon Zero Dawn, the greatest PS4 Pro game to date.

At least, that's what I think



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I would just argue that getting pro patches for 5+ ps4 exclusives tops Horizon Zero Dawn pro compatibility from a marketing and system sales standpoint.

And regardless Horizon remains a reason to buy the PS4Pro into 2018 aswell so i don't think that PS4Pro sales were particularly high for 2017 compared to what they may be with a pricedrop in 2018.



Yup, PS4 will sell about as well as GB/GBC, probably outsell it right before it dies.



Without a doubt 2018 will be better than 2017 but Im interested in seeing how 2019 goes



Your predictions seem pretty good.
I see PS4 as having the potential to hit up to 23 million this year which will put it right on the heels of Gameboy + colour at the end of 2019.