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Lawlight said:
postofficebuddy said:
IIRC there were some people here who still thought PS4 wouldn't hit 100 million lifetime as recently as May. Sales would have to drop like a rock for that to happen at this point.

From September 2015:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=208434

How some people thought it would only sell 80M is beyond me.

Well that at least were 2 years ago or more so we can accept they being wrong (even if so much).

Barkley said:
Lawlight said:

From September 2015:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=208434

How some people thought it would only sell 80M is beyond me.

I can do one better. Predict When will PS4 Outsell Wii

Only 4 months ago people saying PS4 would never outsell the Wii, and probably a lot who said that still believe it now.

That is trully crazy prediction being already close to 70M at the moment.

Lawlight said:
Barkley said:

I can do one better. Predict When will PS4 Outsell Wii

Only 4 months ago people saying PS4 would never outsell the Wii, and probably a lot who said that still believe it now.

I think Alex The Hedgehog is a winner there. Not only did he predict that the PS4 will never outsell the Wii, he predicted 75M lifetime sales.

How he achieved that? Sony stop selling PS4 this holiday?

torok said:
KBG29 said:
I still think they are low balling with that 19 million figure. With Gran Turismo Sport coming out this quarter, and God of War most likely coming around late February or March, I don't see any reason for them not to match or exceed the 20M units they sold in FY2016

Yes, they are. Nintendo is too with their new forecasts. They are predictions that MUST be met at any costs. Annoucing predictions and failling to meet them is a terrible prospect. So when tehse companies rise their forecasts, it's because they know they will make it without breaking a sweat. Actually, it's just because they notice that their previous forecast would be pathetically low.

So, more than 20M is a total given. They are most likely aiming at 21 or 22M right now.

There is a possibility that sony to oversell the 19M, but they don't really lowball. They do a prediction with a high level of confidence to hit but not a low ball, it just happen that Sony on PS4 have done the initial forecast very conservative and when correcting they were always putting it a little higher.

Lawlight said:
torok said:

Yes, they are. Nintendo is too with their new forecasts. They are predictions that MUST be met at any costs. Annoucing predictions and failling to meet them is a terrible prospect. So when tehse companies rise their forecasts, it's because they know they will make it without breaking a sweat. Actually, it's just because they notice that their previous forecast would be pathetically low.

So, more than 20M is a total given. They are most likely aiming at 21 or 22M right now.

I don't think Sony uses that tactic - they've always met their expectations.

This gen they have often reviewed their forecast up on several quarters. So it's possible that they end up at 20M, 21M I think is unlikely.

Zekkyou said:
zorg1000 said:
Yesterday we got news of Nintendo kicking ass and now we find out Playstation is kicking ass as well, good news!!!

It's nice seeing it happen relatively independently too. We normally only see this kind of two-lane market with home consoles vs handheld, which makes me think the PS4 has maintained its grip on the home console market, and the Switch is predominantly pulling in and slightly re-shaping the handheld market. Works out pretty nicely for both Sony and Nintendo.

Or Nintendo really dig a new niche where Cell and Pads competition for the HH is deterred and also the console hungry also doesn't go deep. If their hybrid have almost all the benefits of HH while also attaining some of the console, plus being Nintendo then it have a second breath for HH.

Perhaps Sony will look at it for the next gen to have their PS5 and their PS5 hybrid.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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Intrinsic said:
Oh... and this means VGC has the PS4 having around 4.3M consoles sitting on shelves.

It still has about 3 weeks of tracking to do for sept to catch up with this end of sept shipping numbers, but even if they somehow say it sold 1M in those 3 weeks there will still be 3.3M units on shelves according to VGC.

Undertracked? Or acceptable?

We are heading for Holidays so a lot on shelves isn't abnormal... but haven't been so far since last estimatives from Sony for the total sold. Perhaps they will announce total at PSX and we will have another look of VGC constant undertracking of PS4. Have it been like 9 undertracks for 1 overtrack?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

kopstudent89 said:
79m shipped by March is a tad high right? If they achieve that it would be amazing

Actually, by current rate it could be a bit conservative as well. They can achieve that especially if RDR or GoW is there t boost sales.

OT: This generation is Sony's. Absolutely amazing performance!



hunter_alien said:
kopstudent89 said:
79m shipped by March is a tad high right? If they achieve that it would be amazing

Actually, by current rate it could be a bit conservative as well. They can achieve that especially if RDR or GoW is there t boost sales.

OT: This generation is Sony's. Absolutely amazing performance!

They've absolutely dominated this year. First time they might ship 20m+ since the PS2 days



YNWA

Great hardware sales will help their software in 2018. They need this because their 1st party historically underperformed.



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Miyamotoo said:
Nice, so PS4 will probably hit 100m at end of 2019. I wonder if this is PS4 peak year in sales.

Yeah by holidays end in 2019, PS4 should be confortably over 100m (like around 110m).

And so far this year, its the peak (unless next year is bigger?).

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 31 October 2017

So, the PS4 has sold around 67m as of september 30th. Does this mean the PS4 has outsold the 3DS already?



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Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

This is great. First Nintendo, now Sony. When will we hear from Microsoft?



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Darwinianevolution said:
So, the PS4 has sold around 67m as of september 30th. Does this mean the PS4 has outsold the 3DS already?

"sold" as sold to customers, or sold to distributors, or not really all sold at all? Do you even know how long it takes to ship a container from China to Europe/NA?



DonFerrari said:

We are heading for Holidays so a lot on shelves isn't abnormal... but haven't been so far since last estimatives from Sony for the total sold. Perhaps they will announce total at PSX and we will have another look of VGC constant undertracking of PS4. Have it been like 9 undertracks for 1 overtrack?

But approx. 3M overstock? I think thats tooo much, especially when you consider that shipments naturally also  increase during the holiday period. So sony (and everyone esle for that matter) ships more units during the current quater than any other quater, so its kinda hard to believe that there will be like 3M+ units just lying around now.

PEEPer0nni said:
Great hardware sales will help their software in 2018. They need this because their 1st party historically underperformed.

Sony's first party has been killing it this gen though.

kopstudent89 said:

They've absolutely dominated this year. First time they might ship 20m+ since the PS2 days

Yup....and as crazy as it may seem, next year may actually be better.