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Forums - Sales Discussion - 67.5M PS4 shipped. 4.2M in Q2. Forecast for FY raised

DonFerrari on 02 November 2017
Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

I have nothing against Nintendo doing good and making profit. My only issue is people criticizing AAA putting 100M on a game to sell 10M and make good profit versus Nintendo puting 10M and selling 15M at the same pricetag, asking the others to better manage their budget.

To me a 30% margin is more than decent, if a company is making much more than that, then they should be investing that in making even better things for me, or charge less.

Well that come to personal taste, that $10m game can be better, more fun or game with more content compared to $100m game, it doesn't really matters if one game looks like movie and other like cartoon.

I think Nintendo definitely goes for much more higher margin than 30% for their games or consoles addons, for instance they said they need to sell around 2m copies of Zelda BotW to make profit and they will sell around 10m most likely.

No problem you preffering the 10m game, but if they are making 80% profit (8M profiting after 2M break even) I would appreciate the game costing like half and they breaking even on 4M and profiting on the 6M.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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kolbykooz on 02 November 2017

I remember the beginning of this era there was an air that console sales were dying, this and the great launch of the Switch are really contesting that! Great to see!



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Miyamotoo on 02 November 2017
DonFerrari said:
Miyamotoo said:

Well that come to personal taste, that $10m game can be better, more fun or game with more content compared to $100m game, it doesn't really matters if one game looks like movie and other like cartoon.

I think Nintendo definitely goes for much more higher margin than 30% for their games or consoles addons, for instance they said they need to sell around 2m copies of Zelda BotW to make profit and they will sell around 10m most likely.

No problem you preffering the 10m game, but if they are making 80% profit (8M profiting after 2M break even) I would appreciate the game costing like half and they breaking even on 4M and profiting on the 6M.

They dont have any reason to sell Zelda BotW at lower price, its not how it works, I mean Mario Odyssey that has carton graphics and no voice acting, and for instance The Last Of US 2 that have cast and voice acting like some move and realistic graphics, will have same price point of $60, despite differences they are still both AAA games.



DonFerrari on 02 November 2017
Miyamotoo said:
DonFerrari said:

No problem you preffering the 10m game, but if they are making 80% profit (8M profiting after 2M break even) I would appreciate the game costing like half and they breaking even on 4M and profiting on the 6M.

They dont have any reason to sell Zelda BotW at lower price, its not how it works, I mean Mario Odyssey that has carton graphics and no voice acting, and for instance The Last Of US 2 that have cast and voice acting like some move and realistic graphics, will have same price point of $60, despite differences they are still both AAA games.

And that is the main reason I don't support Nintendo and think they are the ones that abuse most their userbase.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Kerotan on 02 November 2017
NoCtiS_NoX said:

Congrats PS4. When PS4 gets cheaper. Asian markets will take over.

 

Oh and XD

 

 

 

Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

Jesus I'm getting dizzy from all the spin. Just stop. Every thread you are on you try to downplay the massively successful ps4 sales. 

What's the big deal if ps4 regularly gets deals under it's official price? You think ps3, 360 and ps2 rtf didn't? Of course they did and so does the Xbox one. Switch will too. 

Than just stop reading if you are dizzy. ;)     I never try to downplay PS4 massive success, of course if we don't talk about PS4 Japanese sales where some people think they are "phenomenal". :D

It's not big deal, I just pointed that.

 

DonFerrari said:

You love to discuss what isn't being said to deflect from what was said right?

If the system with stock shortages can get deals in less than 6 months, it will become common very fast. Go daily search around the globe and I'm sure you'll find deals every week.

We don't, but the way you phrase it you make like it's less likely to be up. It's unusual to cut from 299 to 199 because you said so? You had any issues with MS cuting from 499 to 399 and to 299?

Well you saying that I wrote some stuffs that I didn't.

Few local deals can't be stopped, deals like those from media market dont have anything with NIntendo and like that guy expanded for Media Market, on 95% Switch places price is regular (just look at Amazons for each country and you will get a picture). Also Nintendo hardware and SW usually have less has deals and discounts compared to Sony and MS, for instance Sony and MS always are giving great deals for Black Friday and that isn't case with Nintendo. 

No, I said we will see, and like I wrote, I expecting that this or next year to be peak year for PS4. No but beacuse its not that so common, MS went from $500 to $400 because they ditch Kinect, and after that they had price cut first to $350 not to $300. I dont see any reason why would console that is selling great had $100 price cut, $100 price cuts are usualy for consoles that are not selling good.

The above post just suns this up perfectly. I think you should just move on. 



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Miyamotoo on 02 November 2017
Kerotan said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Miyamotoo said:

Than just stop reading if you are dizzy. ;)     I never try to downplay PS4 massive success, of course if we don't talk about PS4 Japanese sales where some people think they are "phenomenal". :D

It's not big deal, I just pointed that.

 

Well you saying that I wrote some stuffs that I didn't.

Few local deals can't be stopped, deals like those from media market dont have anything with NIntendo and like that guy expanded for Media Market, on 95% Switch places price is regular (just look at Amazons for each country and you will get a picture). Also Nintendo hardware and SW usually have less has deals and discounts compared to Sony and MS, for instance Sony and MS always are giving great deals for Black Friday and that isn't case with Nintendo. 

No, I said we will see, and like I wrote, I expecting that this or next year to be peak year for PS4. No but beacuse its not that so common, MS went from $500 to $400 because they ditch Kinect, and after that they had price cut first to $350 not to $300. I dont see any reason why would console that is selling great had $100 price cut, $100 price cuts are usualy for consoles that are not selling good.

The above post just suns this up perfectly. I think you should just move on. 

You don't following, we did move on. ;)



Kerotan on 02 November 2017
Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

The above post just suns this up perfectly. I think you should just move on. 

You don't following, we did move on. ;)

Good stuff. Now break out the champagne and red panties. It's time to celebrate our global console overlord! 



WebMasterFlex on 03 November 2017

Remember when some people tought in won't do better than the Wii



Lawlight on 04 November 2017
WebMasterFlex said:
Remember when some people tought in won't do better than the Wii

I member.. I member...



DonFerrari on 04 November 2017
WebMasterFlex said:
Remember when some people tought in won't do better than the Wii

Seems like some thought it would do worse than Vita



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."