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Forums - Politics Discussion - Catalonia declares independence. Puigdemont free to roam Belgium.

 

Who do you support?

Spain 139 59.40%
 
Catalonia 95 40.60%
 
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CrazyGamer2017 said:
fory77 said:
Guys, Belgium is pretty much a non-country and is not Catalonia.
also op dude wtf the new title

Yeah except it is a country and if you don't mind, it is up to us Belgians to decide whether Belgium is a country or not.

And it most definitely is a country, regardless of how it formed as that is now irrelevant.

i was just joking pls no bully 




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Ka-pi96 said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

Yeah except it is a country and if you don't mind, it is up to us Belgians to decide whether Belgium is a country or not.

And it most definitely is a country, regardless of how it formed as that is now irrelevant.

Weren't you against Catalonia's independence? If you Belgians get to decide whether Belgium is a country or not, shouldn't Catalans be able to decide as well?

The difference is Belgium is already a real non-country.

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Ka-pi96 said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

Yeah except it is a country and if you don't mind, it is up to us Belgians to decide whether Belgium is a country or not.

And it most definitely is a country, regardless of how it formed as that is now irrelevant.

Weren't you against Catalonia's independence? If you Belgians get to decide whether Belgium is a country or not, shouldn't Catalans be able to decide as well?

Catalonia is a region or province if you will. Belgium is a country, those two statements are facts. I'm not choosing that Belgium is a country I'm just saying it is because it is. And I am saying that some random guy cannot tell us that we are not a country when we are one.

Catalonia is not a country and Catalans are free to say they would love it to be one but the fact is, it is not. They cannot change that fact anymore than I can change the fact Belgium is a country.

And here is more: if one day Belgium should stop being a country, only Belgians get to decide that (all Belgians), just as all Spanish get to decide that some part of their country is no longer that.



Well, imperialism delays the reckoning again and the inserruction will return in time. This cycle will never stop, no matter how much Spainish apologists keep trying to say. An empire does not a union make.



CrazyGamer2017 said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Weren't you against Catalonia's independence? If you Belgians get to decide whether Belgium is a country or not, shouldn't Catalans be able to decide as well?

Catalonia is a region or province if you will. Belgium is a country, those two statements are facts. I'm not choosing that Belgium is a country I'm just saying it is because it is. And I am saying that some random guy cannot tell us that we are not a country when we are one.

Catalonia is not a country and Catalans are free to say they would love it to be one but the fact is, it is not. They cannot change that fact anymore than I can change the fact Belgium is a country.

And here is more: if one day Belgium should stop being a country, only Belgians get to decide that (all Belgians), just as all Spanish get to decide that some part of their country is no longer that.

Would you advocate for the wiping out of all languages except English?



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Ka-pi96 said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

Catalonia is a region or province if you will. Belgium is a country, those two statements are facts. I'm not choosing that Belgium is a country I'm just saying it is because it is. And I am saying that some random guy cannot tell us that we are not a country when we are one.

Catalonia is not a country and Catalans are free to say they would love it to be one but the fact is, it is not. They cannot change that fact anymore than I can change the fact Belgium is a country.

And here is more: if one day Belgium should stop being a country, only Belgians get to decide that (all Belgians), just as all Spanish get to decide that some part of their country is no longer that.

Ah, so you're a hypocrite?

All of Great Britian didnt decide that America could leave



Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda Muda!!!!


Ka-pi96 said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

Catalonia is a region or province if you will. Belgium is a country, those two statements are facts. I'm not choosing that Belgium is a country I'm just saying it is because it is. And I am saying that some random guy cannot tell us that we are not a country when we are one.

Catalonia is not a country and Catalans are free to say they would love it to be one but the fact is, it is not. They cannot change that fact anymore than I can change the fact Belgium is a country.

And here is more: if one day Belgium should stop being a country, only Belgians get to decide that (all Belgians), just as all Spanish get to decide that some part of their country is no longer that.

Ah, so you're a hypocrite?

You might want to explain a little more when you choose to become aggressive like that, ok?

And nope I totally make sense. If I were a hypocrite I would say BRUSSELS should be independent but not Catalonia.

I say Belgium is a country like I say Spain is a country and Brussels or Brabant are not a country just like Catalonia is not one either.

Is that clear enough or do you still not get it?



Arminillo said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Ah, so you're a hypocrite?

All of Great Britian didnt decide that America could leave

True. But that was back in the 18th century, Britain modernised and became more democratic. They gave Scotland a fair chance to get independence.



fory77 said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

Catalonia is a region or province if you will. Belgium is a country, those two statements are facts. I'm not choosing that Belgium is a country I'm just saying it is because it is. And I am saying that some random guy cannot tell us that we are not a country when we are one.

Catalonia is not a country and Catalans are free to say they would love it to be one but the fact is, it is not. They cannot change that fact anymore than I can change the fact Belgium is a country.

And here is more: if one day Belgium should stop being a country, only Belgians get to decide that (all Belgians), just as all Spanish get to decide that some part of their country is no longer that.

Would you advocate for the wiping out of all languages except English?

What do you mean the wiping out of all languages?

I believe languages are tools for communication and that has never been more true than in this globalized world we have in the 21st century.

Beyond that, I'm not sure what you are trying to say or ask.



Flilix said:
Arminillo said:

All of Great Britian didnt decide that America could leave

True. But that was back in the 19th century, Britain modernised and became more democratic. They gave Scotland a fair chance to get independence.

Actually, it was back in the 18th century!