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Forums - Sales Discussion - Japan sales (Week 42): Media Create/Famitsu/Dengeki - 16th- 22nd of October 2017

Shaunodon said:
Kerotan said:

This is what I've been saying since it was announced.  I just hope when they finally release GT7 that they also port it to ps5. 

"Gran Turismo 5 Prologue will be available for $39.99 on Blu-ray Disc (BD) and as a download via the PLAYSTATION Store." (https://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/01/29/gran-turismo-5-prologue-priced-and-dated/ )

"Gran Tursmo Sport launches today on PlayStation 4 and its MSRP is a very affordable $59.99." (https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/17/16487998/gran-turismo-sport-collectors-edition-real-car-stunt-taiwan )

Hence why I've always said it's a beefed up prologue.  They added more content then a prologue on ps4 would of had so they can charge full price.  

 

I can almost guarantee you the funds they bring in from sport (probably over $150m) will go towards the development of GT7.

 

They are smart going with sport instead of prologue og. 

 

Likely to sell more that way at a better price. 



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Kerotan said:
Shaunodon said:

"Gran Turismo 5 Prologue will be available for $39.99 on Blu-ray Disc (BD) and as a download via the PLAYSTATION Store." (https://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/01/29/gran-turismo-5-prologue-priced-and-dated/ )

"Gran Tursmo Sport launches today on PlayStation 4 and its MSRP is a very affordable $59.99." (https://www.polygon.com/2017/10/17/16487998/gran-turismo-sport-collectors-edition-real-car-stunt-taiwan )

Hence why I've always said it's a beefed up prologue.  They added more content then a prologue on ps4 would of had so they can charge full price.  

 

I can almost guarantee you the funds they bring in from sport (probably over $150m) will go towards the development of GT7.

 

They are smart going with sport instead of prologue og. 

 

Likely to sell more that way at a better price. 

With the positive word of mouth, how could it not do well-

https://www.amazon.com/Gran-Turismo-Sport-PlayStation-4/product-reviews/B01FT72NOO/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_top?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-PlayStation-Gran-Turismo-download/product-reviews/B00ZG1SVA4/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_top?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews



Shaunodon said:
Kerotan said:

Hence why I've always said it's a beefed up prologue.  They added more content then a prologue on ps4 would of had so they can charge full price.  

 

I can almost guarantee you the funds they bring in from sport (probably over $150m) will go towards the development of GT7.

 

They are smart going with sport instead of prologue og. 

 

Likely to sell more that way at a better price. 

With the positive word of mouth, how could it not do well-

https://www.amazon.com/Gran-Turismo-Sport-PlayStation-4/product-reviews/B01FT72NOO/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_top?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-PlayStation-Gran-Turismo-download/product-reviews/B00ZG1SVA4/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_top?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

76 on Metacritic is decent for a glorified prologue.  It will sell a few million which is doing very well.  

 

GT7 will be the real test. 



Kerotan said:
Shaunodon said:

With the positive word of mouth, how could it not do well-

https://www.amazon.com/Gran-Turismo-Sport-PlayStation-4/product-reviews/B01FT72NOO/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_top?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-PlayStation-Gran-Turismo-download/product-reviews/B00ZG1SVA4/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_top?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

76 on Metacritic is decent for a glorified prologue.  It will sell a few million which is doing very well.  

 

GT7 will be the real test. 

Why do people always say the review score on Metacritic? People always talk about how untrustworthy reviewers are but then cite the reviewer metacritic score .... 

the user score is 6.2. Which is still very decent, but it's .9 points behind GT5 Prologue



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Kerotan said:

76 on Metacritic is decent for a glorified prologue.  It will sell a few million which is doing very well.  

 

GT7 will be the real test. 

Why do people always say the review score on Metacritic? People always talk about how untrustworthy reviewers are but then cite the reviewer metacritic score .... 

the user score is 6.2. Which is still very decent, but it's .9 points behind GT5 Prologue

.9 is not a lot and I'd say that score is expected.  

 

Sony are selling a glorified prologue as a mainline title they are doing it because they think this tactic will maximise revenue.  I would have been surprised if the user score was high.  

 

I bought the game knowing full well what it is and got what I expected and wanted.  I look forward to the inevitable GT7 in a few years. 



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Kerotan said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Why do people always say the review score on Metacritic? People always talk about how untrustworthy reviewers are but then cite the reviewer metacritic score .... 

the user score is 6.2. Which is still very decent, but it's .9 points behind GT5 Prologue

.9 is not a lot and I'd say that score is expected.  

 

Sony are selling a glorified prologue as a mainline title they are doing it because they think this tactic will maximise revenue.  I would have been surprised if the user score was high.  

 

I bought the game knowing full well what it is and got what I expected and wanted.  I look forward to the inevitable GT7 in a few years. 

.9 is not a lot?

In the bigger picture it's huge. .9 is the difference between a 90 and a 81, a 81 and a 72, a 72 anda 63 ...

I guess the moral of the story is to charge an appropriate amount of money for products, or just offer more features



tbone51 said:
TheWPCTraveler said:

An attach rate of <1.45 is certainly not "strong," either.

With no new releases (lets mot count nba). They all do well. If you want to talk about a certain aspect sure but those titles are the definition of legs (mk8d/botw/splat2/arms)

This



spurgeonryan said:
So PS4 took back number 1?

Yup. PS4 is killing it

 

MichealJetli said:
DonFerrari said:

Yep, and that is why Switch is on the death bed.

Aren't you the same person who was butthurted over that words? ROFL

Switch being on its death bed... I'm pretty sure he's joking

 

OT:

GTS could be better but at least it boosted PS4 sales by 37.75%.

Can't wait to see Switch numbers next week. They'll be big



Aggregation period: October 16, 2017 - October 22, 2017
RankTitle (manufacturer)ModelGenrepriceEstimated sales volumeChloreby 
10 points perfect score
Sold out

Gran Turismo SPORT 【Sony · Interactive Entertainment Japan Asia】
October 19, 2017

PS4 simulator 6900 yen 
[tax excluded]

139357 books

Total: 139357

-

Shadow city 【BANDAI NAMCO ENTERTAINMENT】
October 19, 2017

PS4 Action · Adventure 8200 yen 
[tax excluded]

44,441 books

Total: 46,441

7.75 points

Psycho Break 2 【Bethesda · Softworks】
October 19, 2017

PS4 action 7980 yen 
[excluding tax]

45,568 books

Total: 45,568

8.75 points

Four

Street Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy 30th ANNIVERSARY 【SQUARE · ENIX】
October 19, 2017

PS4 Board game 7800 yen 
[excluding tax]

Thirty-one 9192

Total: 31,929

7.50 points

Five

Street Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy 30th ANNIVERSARY 【SQUARE · ENIX】
October 19, 2017

Vita Board game 5980 yen 
[excluding tax]

15,515 books

Total: 15,815 books

7.50 points

6

Uta no Prince-sama Amazing Aria & Sweet Serenade LOVE 【Broccoli】
October 19, 2017

Vita Adventure 6300 yen 
[excluding tax]

10,452

Total: 14,352

-

7

Splatoon 2 [Nintendo]
21 July 2017

Switch TPS 5980 yen 
[excluding tax]

11,461 books

Cumulative total: 1288 8631

9.25 points

8

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe 【Nintendo】
April 28, 2017

Switch race 5980 yen 
[excluding tax]

10,1095 books

Total: 700,000 2376

8.75 points

9

Shadow of War 【Warner Brothers Japan】
October 12, 2017

PS4 Action · RPG 7800 yen 
[excluding tax]

7820 books

Total: 30866 books

-

Ten

Mario & Luigi RPG 1 DX [Nintendo]
October 05, 2017

3DS Action · RPG 4980 yen 
[excluding tax]

6117 books

Total: 49,9953

8.25 points

11

The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild [Nintendo]
03 Mar 2017

Switch Action · Adventure 6980 yen 
[excluding tax]

5754 books

Total: 545 5312

10.00 points

12

POKKEN TOURNAMENT DX [Pokemon]
September 22, 2017

Switch action 5980 yen 
[excluding tax]

5739 books

Total: 100,457

-

13

FIFA 18 【Electronic Arts】
Sep 29, 2017

PS4 Sports 7800 yen 
[excluding tax]

4504 books

Total: 82,075

9.25 points

14

Snack World Treasures 【Level Five】
10th August 2017

3DS RPG 4800 yen 
[tax excluded]

3690 books

Total: 191,646

8.75 points

15

Dragon Quest XI In pursuit of the passing of time 【SQUARE ENIX】
July 29, 2017

3DS RPG 5980 yen 
[excluding tax]

3488 books

Total: 1,725,526

10.00 points

16

Winning Eleven 2018 【KONAMI】
September 14, 2017

PS4 Sports 7600 yen 
[excluding tax]

3243 books

Total: 112,270 books

8.75 points

17

Pocket Monsters Gold · Silver (Download Card Version) 【Nintendo】
Sep 22, 2017

3DS RPG 1111 yen 
[excluding tax]

3085 books

Total: 90,281 books

-

18

Monster Hunter Double Cross Nintendo Switch Ver. 【Capcom】
August 25, 2017

Switch action 5800 yen 
[excluding tax]

3037 books

Total: 172,128

-

19

Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen (Dragons Dogma: Dark Alison) 【Capcom】
October 05, 2017

PS4 action 3990 yen 
[excluding tax]

2792 books

Total: 10, 9084

-

20

NBA 2K18 【2K】
October 17, 2017

Switch Sports 7000 yen 
[excluding tax]

2397 books

Total: 2397

8.25 points

twenty one

Tobii Animal Crossing Ani amiibo + [Nintendo]
November 23, 2016

3DS Other 2700 yen 
[excluding tax]

2341 books

Total: 23 thousand 7525 books

-

twenty two

LOST SPHEAR (Lost Sphere) 【SQUARE ENIX】
October 12, 2017

PS4 RPG 5800 yen 
[excluding tax]

2250 books

Total: 9519 books

8.00 points

twenty three

FIFA 18 【Electronic Arts】
Sep 29, 2017

Switch Sports 5800 yen 
[excluding tax]

2166 books

Total: 22,999 books

9.25 points

twenty four

Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 【Ubisoft Soft】
October 05, 2017

PS4 FPS 7980 yen 
[excluding tax]

2079 books

Total: 10,671

7.75 points

twenty five

Fire Emblem Musou [Koei Tecmo Games]
September 28, 2017

Switch action 7800 yen 
[excluding tax]

2034 books

Total: 55,463

9.00 points

26

Dragon Ball Zeno Barth 2 for Nintendo Switch 【BANDAI NAMCO ENTERTAINMENT】
September 07, 2017

Switch action 6800 yen 
[excluding tax]

2011 book

Total: 45,219

-

27

Legend of Heroes Legend Screen III [Japan Falcom]
September 28, 2017

PS4 RPG 7800 yen 
[excluding tax]

1966 books

Total: 120,000 0050

8.25 points

28

Dragon Quest XI In pursuit of the passing of time 【SQUARE ENIX】
July 29, 2017

PS4 RPG 8980 yen 
[excluding tax]

1927 books

Cumulative total: 1,321,146

10.00 points

29

Grand · Theft Auto V (New Price Edition) 【Rock Star · Games】
October 08, 2015

PS4 action 4990 yen 
[tax excluded]

1907 books

Total: 300 thousand 4725 books

-

30

V! It is cheerful to the honor of the brave R [Sony · Interactive Entertainment Japan Asia]
October 14, 2017

PS4 simulation 4900 yen 
[excluding tax]

1906 books

Total: 6604

8.25 points
Model This week Last week Last year Last   
PS4 32,007        
Switch 23892        
3DS          
           
           
Huge discrepancy again with 2 trackers. I will update it later for the full table same with MC numbers as well.


AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Kerotan said:

.9 is not a lot and I'd say that score is expected.  

 

Sony are selling a glorified prologue as a mainline title they are doing it because they think this tactic will maximise revenue.  I would have been surprised if the user score was high.  

 

I bought the game knowing full well what it is and got what I expected and wanted.  I look forward to the inevitable GT7 in a few years. 

.9 is not a lot?

In the bigger picture it's huge. .9 is the difference between a 90 and a 81, a 81 and a 72, a 72 anda 63 ...

I guess the moral of the story is to charge an appropriate amount of money for products, or just offer more features

The moral of the story is Sony are getting a boat load of cash for releasing a beefed up prologue while the main game is developed.