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Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

Not just switch but when ps4 games skipped 3DS/Wii U too. This has been going on long before Switch was even revealed. 

And they were deluded fanboys regarding ps4 sales.  Did they really think ps4 sales would remain low when the inevitable awesome line up of software hit?  No they let their hopes cloud their judgement.  

I didn't pay attention before on those things for 3DS and Wii U, but hardly they were saying same things for 3DS and espacily Wii U that they are saying for Switch now, because it's obvious that Switch will be huge in Japan and Wii U didnt, and Switch has enough power and supports for all modern engines that 3DS and Wii U lacked, so now it has more sense for 3rd partys to do more ports for Switch compared to 3DS and Wii U.

When PS4 selling like crap for hole year and has worst 1st year ever in Japan, you are not "deluded fanboy" when you say that PS4 is selling like crap and that will have low LT sales. People mostly were saying that in PS4 1st year, later when PS4 start selling better nobady relly were saying that.

You see that's the thing.  They actually were saying that pre Switch.  As crazy as that sounds.  Just shows you how bad the mentality is. 

 

Regarding ps4 it was obvious to evenn a blind man that when ps4 got suitable Japanese software releases it would then get better hardware sales.  

 

But even still when ps4 starting doing better they were in deniall. That's what happens when a bunch of ps4 haters on gaf let their anti ps4 bias cloud their judgement.  They look silly and end up with egg on their face. 



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It was a site with a very large userbase and as such there were posters of all kinds and people of all types.

I enjoyed the site for the parts that spoke to me: the original art threads, the music appreciation threads, some of the news threads and personal threads in the OT where people would share about themselves honestly and in a supportive manner, the crazy E3 or Nintendo Direct Hype Trains, and more.

Personally I found more good than bad in the forum and tried to add my own meaningful contributions when I could, such as making the Get Well Iwata thread and poster - that will always be remembered as one of my high points on the site. It makes me sad to learn that a place that generally brought me happiness was a source of so much pain and frustration to others, and I was very angry to discover about the owner's behavior...



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I'd rather not have them here, quite frankly.



Majin-Tenshinhan said:
I'd rather not have them here, quite frankly.

What have the majority of the individual posters done for you to make such a statement? Most of us were no different than the average poster on any other forum. That said, I’m seriously considering finding another site. No reason to be here if it’s going to cause animosity.



Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

I didn't pay attention before on those things for 3DS and Wii U, but hardly they were saying same things for 3DS and espacily Wii U that they are saying for Switch now, because it's obvious that Switch will be huge in Japan and Wii U didnt, and Switch has enough power and supports for all modern engines that 3DS and Wii U lacked, so now it has more sense for 3rd partys to do more ports for Switch compared to 3DS and Wii U.

When PS4 selling like crap for hole year and has worst 1st year ever in Japan, you are not "deluded fanboy" when you say that PS4 is selling like crap and that will have low LT sales. People mostly were saying that in PS4 1st year, later when PS4 start selling better nobady relly were saying that.

You see that's the thing.  They actually were saying that pre Switch.  As crazy as that sounds.  Just shows you how bad the mentality is. 

Regarding ps4 it was obvious to evenn a blind man that when ps4 got suitable Japanese software releases it would then get better hardware sales.  

But even still when ps4 starting doing better they were in deniall. That's what happens when a bunch of ps4 haters on gaf let their anti ps4 bias cloud their judgement.  They look silly and end up with egg on their face. 

I really didn't mention that, I see that with Switch and I saw why people are saying that (from reasons I mentioned).

No it wasnt obvous at all and that why people are saying that PS4 will sell less than Vita LT, beacuse fact that PS4 had worst 1st year ever in Japan (even less than Wii U, Dreamcast and Vita) while on all other markets PS4 was making sales records.

Again, people mostly were saying that in PS4 1st year, later when PS4 start selling better nobady relly were saying that.



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DeuceGamer said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
I'd rather not have them here, quite frankly.

What have the majority of the individual posters done for you to make such a statement? Most of us were no different than the average poster on any other forum. That said, I’m seriously considering finding another site. No reason to be here if it’s going to cause animosity.

Bro don't be like that. People just have an archetype in their head for Gaf users. But a lot of users here are cool with you coming here.



I... personally don´t like the idea.... I like VgChartz the way it is.



Rogerioandrade said:
I... personally don´t like the idea.... I like VgChartz the way it is.

It's not like all NeoGaf members will suddenly come to VGChartz. Maybe we'll get a few new members, which would be nice imo.



Miyamotoo said:
Kerotan said:

You see that's the thing.  They actually were saying that pre Switch.  As crazy as that sounds.  Just shows you how bad the mentality is. 

Regarding ps4 it was obvious to evenn a blind man that when ps4 got suitable Japanese software releases it would then get better hardware sales.  

But even still when ps4 starting doing better they were in deniall. That's what happens when a bunch of ps4 haters on gaf let their anti ps4 bias cloud their judgement.  They look silly and end up with egg on their face. 

I really didn't mention that, I see that with Switch and I saw why people are saying that (from reasons I mentioned).

No it wasnt obvous at all and that why people are saying that PS4 will sell less than Vita LT, beacuse fact that PS4 had worst 1st year ever in Japan (even less than Wii U, Dreamcast and Vita) while on all other markets PS4 was making sales records.

Again, people mostly were saying that in PS4 1st year, later when PS4 start selling better nobady relly were saying that.

Stop rewriting history.  Ps4 never got the credit it deserved.  The year before it outsold Wii U in Japan people still denied it would ever even pass that comsole in Japan.  

 

Same happened WW  except it was people denying ps4 would outsell 3DS. There was a thread bumped recently where the posters were saying it was impossible xD 

 

Yet ps4 is going to do it so easily.  Just like how passing Wii U and Vita in Japan will have been easy.  

 

Anyway I read Japan sales gaf weekly for years and I can tell you it's full of ps4 haters who even to this day downplay everything ps4. I'm actually sad it's imploded because I wanted to see lots of posters eat crow after inazuma eleven ps4 was revealed. 



Kerotan said:
Miyamotoo said:

I really didn't mention that, I see that with Switch and I saw why people are saying that (from reasons I mentioned).

No it wasnt obvous at all and that why people are saying that PS4 will sell less than Vita LT, beacuse fact that PS4 had worst 1st year ever in Japan (even less than Wii U, Dreamcast and Vita) while on all other markets PS4 was making sales records.

Again, people mostly were saying that in PS4 1st year, later when PS4 start selling better nobady relly were saying that.

Stop rewriting history.  The year before it outsold Wii U in Japan people still denied it would ever even pass that comsole in Japan.  

 

Same happened WW  except it was people denying ps4 would outsell 3DS. There was a thread bumped recently where the posters were saying it was impossible xD 

 

Yet ps4 is going to do it so easily.  Just like how passing Wii U and Vita in Japan will have been easy.  

 

Anyway I read Japan sales gaf weekly for years and I can tell you it's full of ps4 haters who even to this day downplay everything ps4. I'm actually sad it's imploded because I wanted to see lots of posters eat crow after inazuma eleven ps4 was revealed. 

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