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NeoGAF in shambles (now back, no OT discussion, statement from Evilore)

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FloatingWaffles said:

I'm not going to comment on the whole Evilore thing, but I will say if that is truly the end of Neogaf then good fucking riddance. 

Neogaf was probably the most disguisting site i've ever seen in terms of how the users and mods acted and did, the mods banning anyone who had a different opinion and the users acting like they were better than others to make themselves feel better by being in an echo chamber/hive mind, and then also trying to call anyone a racist,nazi, etc for thinking differently about a topic. They also wanted to try to force their opinions and how they thought about things on people/developers and such with sheep/mob mentality.  Literally all it takes is looking at one political thread or something along those lines there to see it for yourself.

The only reason I even checked out that site before was just because it had a lot of users so sometimes I would check to see what topics there were and some topics on gaming things, and to laugh at how batshit insane some of the sjw shit and overreactions that happened over there in political threads. 

They also tried to hide the truth of a subject/topic on several occasions once they saw that they couldn't fit the subject into their agenda that they were trying to push. Truly a nasty place, and it's no wonder why it was laughed at/despised by so many people, including many in the gaming industry. Just check this tweet out.

https://twitter.com/therealcliffyb/status/479129693241614336?lang=en

TBF Cliffy B has a habit of making himself a target not just at Gaf but in general so I picture that tweet is more him firing back after years of being demolished.



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GribbleGrunger said:
VGPolyglot said:

Women make less than men, both on average and by the median:

http://www.businessinsider.com/gender-wage-pay-gap-charts-2017-3

Women are more often victims of sexual assault than men:

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence

Yeah, I used to think the same way but then I started listening to people who could break it down rationally. 

This guy that has to have 'civilization' in every title of his videos?



VGPolyglot said:
GribbleGrunger said:

I'm interested now. Answer the question, please.

Women make less than men, both on average and by the median:

http://www.businessinsider.com/gender-wage-pay-gap-charts-2017-3

Women are more often victims of sexual assault than men:

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence

Look more into it, please. Start from here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58arQIr882w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oqyrflOQFc

- Moderated, Carl

Don't ignore moderator warnings.



LurkerJ said:

Look more into it, please. Start from here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58arQIr882w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oqyrflOQFc

Thanks for this. 



 

The PS5 Exists. 


FloatingWaffles said:

https://twitter.com/therealcliffyb/status/479129693241614336?lang=en

Pretty savage update to this tweet by CliffordB now that Evilore has been exposed as the piece of shit he is. Of course, when Evilore tweeted back at this tweet years ago Cliff replied that Evilore isn't a cunt.. bet he wishes he could have that tweet back.



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LOL



monocle_layton said:
o_O.Q said:

 

"Equity, not equality."

 

i quoted your words directly and you typed equality with regards to rights twice and could not state any rights that men have that women lack

 

" A women who's pregnant shouldn't be expected to work 70 hours just because I could. At the same time, a man taking care of 2 kids shouldn't be expected to work 65 hours because a single woman can."

 

what a weird red herring but is your argument here? that companies should be forced to absorb the costs of the personal decisions their employees make?


"You constantly keep going in a circle and saying 'well what inequalities'. That was never my fucking argument."

 

so why did you state that its about equality with regards to rights twice?

 

"You clearly stated you personally don't treat women like garbage and think they're clearly treated well. How does that negate feminism?"

 

i actually did not, what i said is that its a weird argument to bring up because i don't think anyone being rational would try to state that a significant number of people think its ok to treat women like garbage

 

i didn't say that this negates feminism

 

"If things seem fine, then there's nothing wrong with standing still for a short or permanent amount of time. How complicated is that? "

 

what is your point here? are you trying to in some roundabout way admit that men and women have equal rights now?

 

"I'm thinking rationally, and instead of constantly going on about how I'm 'irrational'"

 

well all i can do is request that you look back at my questions and your replies to them and assess your responces for yourself

The issue is that I have no idea how this conversations reached to this when I never entered the feminism conversation. At this point, I honestly don't care about being right. 

 

I don't think you're idiotic or anything (not sure if you can say the same), but I'm truly lost as to what happened from my first comment to your response. What is it even over? 

 

because you were challenging me stating that feminism is an irrational ideology... i suppose i was just trying to see your perspective since you think the opposite, i suppose all i can say now is to ask you to sincerely look at what feminists are campaigning for now and ty to determine for yourself if their current stated goals are in anyway sensible or even desirable for men and women

 

i don't think they are and i have difficulty believing others do tbh... and in many cases like with the owner of neogaf... they do not, they simply use the ideology as a cloak to mask their true intentions which are sociopathic

 

uh... to those who keep saying that feminism is irrelevant here - the very reason neogaf is falling apart is that its owner claimed to uphold feminist values and then was outed as a misogynist



Soundwave said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Not anymore

But yeah, it was way bigger. Way way way bigger.

Like 10x bigger? Seems like there's maybe 2000-3000 posters here, with a good chunk of those not posting much. I'd guesstimate maybe 400-500 peeps that post regularily. Have no idea if that's correct but that's about what it feels like. 

Number of active people active are important in these cases. Considering how difficult it is to get an account verified on Neo Gaf vs here, you can presume that people willing to go through that process are more motivated to be active, in general.

But from what I know a lot of industry people posted on Gaf. I'm not aware of a single one on VGC that's well known.



I'm surprised that neogaf is described as full of SJW's, I always thought of that place as more as a pro Sony/PS fan and anti-Xbox/MS site.



Proud to be a Californian.

Good.

Self important owner (lets be honest, he always looked a bit... questionable) who was given a far bigger voice than he deserved. I recall seeing him at a high profile round table during the PS4 launch and thinking what the fuck is he doing there? His facial expression at the time revealed he was probably wondering the same thing.

Moronic and arrogant mods.

Self important, arrogant forum and posters claiming they were the voice of gamers. They weren't. A bunch of cry baby, entitled, whining bullies.

Good riddance.



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