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Kotaku has an interview with the accuser, not sure if it's been posted but uh this kinda stands out:

https://kotaku.com/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-aga-1819755151

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015.

Eh ... what? She had a relationship with this Malka guy?



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Soundwave said:

Kotaku has an interview with the accuser, not sure if it's been posted but uh this kinda stands out:

https://kotaku.com/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-aga-1819755151

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident "

Eh ... what? She had a relationship with this Malka guy?

Sounds like this “woman” has some issues of herself. 



UltimateGamer1982 said:
Soundwave said:

Kotaku has an interview with the accuser, not sure if it's been posted but uh this kinda stands out:

https://kotaku.com/neogaf-goes-dark-after-sexual-misconduct-allegation-aga-1819755151

"In a phone conversation with Kotaku, Leupp said that even after the alleged shower incident, she’d continued her friendship and even had a brief physical relationship with Malka until they had a falling out at E3 2015. She said that, prior to the alleged shower incident "

Eh ... what? She had a relationship with this Malka guy?

Sounds like this “woman” has some issues of herself. 

This Malka guy may well be an asshole, but yeah this story is staring to smell a bit fishy, if the above is true.



cycycychris said:
Yeah, gaf isn't in too good of shape right now, thats for sure. But the site isn't doomed. It'll always have its loyal base that lives behind the thought that they've made it in life since there a member of the one and only Gaf.

I am a member of GAF. What's so special about it?
I prefer VGChartz personally. Probably because of all the Cats.

LudicrousSpeed said:

Surely Gamefaqs is much bigger. And IGN. Probably more.

Easily.
Where GAF comes ut ahead though is with the volume of Enthusiasts.

Finale said:
Well,it's a good thing a decided to join this site instead.

Same thing probably won't happen here as the owner has already abandoned it I think. Haha
They just keep piling on more adverts to make it more unusable.

TallSilhouette said:

I wouldn't get too smug, you guys; it's not like VGC is in a healthy state these days. Who's to say we won't be right behind it? Wouldn't be the first time it's happened to me...

Nothing lasts forever. I have been a moderator at multiple big gaming forums in the past, their userbases eventually dwindled and the forums were closed/sold.
But you know what? You find new outlets.

Ari_Gold said:
I was part of vgchartz when it started. All the drama between evillore and ioi and ioi will have to he final laugh. Lmao. I eventually stopped posting here cause it got horrible with Naznatips and some other Nintendo fanboys. But neogaf.... now that's a different beast. The moderation was one of the worst I've seen in my life. They are just as guilty for promoting witch hunts on people, and overreacting over anything. I stopped posting when it got full of crazy sjws during gamer gate. That as well as Trump winning pretty much affected their mental health. Sup at the old posters. Soriku, the source, superchunk, rolstoppalbe, liquidmetsl, Leoj.

The Moderators were/are on a power trip over there.




--::{PC Gaming Master Race}::--

Boutros said:

The worst part about NeoGAF were the moderators (along with some MC users) so good riddance. They better stay away from VGC.

No, they should register on VGC and, after the first post, our moderators should permaban them for any stupid reason. Karma is a b****!!



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Neogaf is down right now, some message about a scheduled maintenance. Not sure if related to all these events, but they probably took the site down to control the situation.



Pretty much a given the admins that left will just form their own forum without EvilLore. It can't be that difficult to create a web forum. 



torok said:
Neogaf is down right now, some message about a scheduled maintenance. Not sure if related to all these events, but they probably took the site down to control the situation.

It’s been like that since Saturday night. I got in last night briefly and saw users posting whatever they wanted without mods. 



UltimateGamer1982 said:
 

It’s been like that since Saturday night. I got in last night briefly and saw users posting whatever they wanted without mods. 

I can't say I feel sorry for them. Neogaf has great insiders, but the mods are strict to the point that it seems that all active users actually share the same opinion than them. Of course, a forum like VGC has more flaming and discussions, but that's simply a side-effect of having people speaking freely about a subject.

Also, I never agree with the vision that Gaf has about sales. VGS estimates are far from perfect, but they are usually within 10% of the real values for hardware, while software is a bit less precise. It's a somewhat big margin, but it gives a good insight about general numbers.

It is also too hard to follow sales of hardware or games that the company isn't reporting. Wikipedia numbers, for that reason, are always laughably outdated. It's better to know X1 sales with a 10% error margin than having correct numbers from 2014. VGC basically is like getting the last official numbers and adding the consecutive NPD and Meadi Create sales while estimating Europe and the rest of the world. It's convenient to have that.

Since Gaf won't use VGC numbers, most of their discussion is centered around NPD or Japan. Sales discussion on Gaf is basically useless.

Edit:  before someone thinks I could be mad at Gaf because I got banned or something like that, I never did. I have a junior account there (at least if they don't disable them after some time without posts). At the time, I knew that normally after some time of posting I would get promoted to a full account, but I disliked the discussions on the site so much that I simply didn't feel like I wanted to post stuff or be part of the community.

VGC community is great and always make me want to return and keep posting.



VGPolyglot said:
Lawlight said:

The wage pay gap myth has been debunked a long time ago. I suggest checking out the factual feminist's youtube video on it.

For the second, yes but what equal rights are you fighting for? 

"Myth" How is it a myth? Are you saying they don't get paid less? And for the second one, I'm saying that there is a certain mindset that exists that views sexual assault of women as more acceptable than sexual assault of men.

Both genders have draw backs. Women earn less because they go into professions that pay less. Men are working more dangerous jobs. Thats why most fatalities on the workplace are men. Ever see a woman cleaning the canalisation ? Men are physically stronger so they do jobs that most women cant like construction. This inturn makes the pool of workers smaller and the value of the worker higher. For the same job/hours its illegal to pay less based on gender and the fines are extremly high. Men are much more likely to put in overtime.

 

Men are several times more likely to be murder victims. And victims of violent assault. Men are 3 times more likely to commit suicide. Men in prisons are also more likely to be raped. Yes women have their shit to deal with. So do men. Proping up a gender in favour of the other makes no sense. Feminism is a loaded word and has been extremly tainted. Men and women have the same rights. But truth is they are biologically different. Feminists try to focus on the outcome. They want the outcome to be same and of the outcome is not the same it must be sexism. But men and women act differently. Feel differently and are on a spectrum different the outcome will never be the same unless you actively disadvantage one side over the other. Women and men should have the same rights but expecting every statistic to be 50/50 is insane.