However my old tv broke, good 1080 tvs are extinct, and I value black level more than anything when buying a new set. Since OLED is still bloody expensive for 65" I got a good HDR set with local dimming and great black level. 65" however is still a it small to really notice 4K resolution unless you stand right in front of it. What does make all the difference in HDR and good use of wide color. GT Sport looks phenomenal. I was a skeptic at first and even though HZD looks great in 4K HDR, the upgrade is not that profound to use DF's terminology.  GT Sport however is the killer app for HDR atm, color use and lighting are tailor made for HDR sets. The difference between GT Sport on my 1080p projector and 4K HDR set is night and day. It's displaying shades of colors I've never seen come out a tv before. Rebuilding the game from the ground up with bt.2020 color space in mind was worth it.

Yet talk about niche, one game that makes full use of the new 4K HDR sets, a game that's lacking content and is marred by always online requirement.

Is it good enough to abandon my projector and park my chair in front of the tv to play GT Sport, you betcha.
Is it good enough to spend CAD 600 on an XBox One X, nah. I'll be back to VR when Skyrim comes out.

Anyway if your current tv is still fine, just wait until full HDR sets become more affordable and maybe HDMI 2.1 will be out by then (for variable frame rates like g-sync) The bits of 4K video content I managed to watch on the tv look nice, not worth the upgrade though.

True but that's not why people are making a fuss over loot boxes. Ya ever hear of that saying "give an inch and they'll take a mile"? People want to stop it before it gets worse. 

Here's where activsion is playing around with matchmaking algorithms that pit noob players against experienced players with the goal of them hopefully buying in-game items with money. 

"For instance, the microtransaction engine may match a more expert/marquee player with a junior player to encourage the junior player to make game-related purchases of items possessed/used by the marquee player. A junior player may wish to emulate the marquee player by obtaining weapons or other items used by the marquee player.”

The system looks at players’ profiles to determine their specific playstyles. One example given by the patent is that a player who has shown a proclivity towards sniper rifles will be paired with a player who is proficient with this type of weapon. The novice player may then be influenced to purchase the sniper rifle (and gear) used by the expert player. After this purchase, the player would then be placed in a match where sniper rifles are advantageous, thus encouraging future purchases."

https://www.geek.com/games/activision-patents-matchmaking-algorithm-to-make-players-spend-money-1719969/

It's just better to nip this kind of shit in the butt instead of ignoring this kind of crap til it's too imbedded into the games to reverse it. As soon as they push for an itch, raise some hell. 

Not if you want the true ending. Thats not true.

Honestly, just stop. It disgusts me to see people defend these trash companies on their BS.

Not if you want the true ending. Thats not true.

Honestly, just stop. It disgusts me to see people defend these trash companies on their BS.

I was wondering how you were playing the GT Sport beta last night! I leave the game on as well, great HDR screensaver when idle.

I did the same thing when I got the tv, watch the 4k store demos on you tube. They Look great in slow movement (otherwise I get too many compression artifacts), however those videos are heavily processed to make these tvs look good, they made planet earth 2 look a bit pedestrian. (which looks great as well, but real instead of surreal)

Here Netflix detected my tv and immediately wanted me to upgrade to 4K for $5 a month extra. I checked my to watch list, nothing in it has 4K afaik and certainly not HDR. Plus I'm watching 7 seasons of DS9 atm, in 4:3 SD from the 90's... And my connection still occasionally strugles with that :(

I wish they would make a game that actually uses the power rather than just showboating old titles nobody cares about anymore, "hey everyone, it turns out having more ram allows you to use high resolution textures!!"

Has anyone bothered to give Microsoft a nudge and tell them that it wasn't, and never has been the lack of power thats been hurting their sales? and releasing such a hefty console so far into the gen is only going to hurt them in the future, PS5 drops and it's a significant improvement over PS4/Pro, the next xbox drops and it's only a minor improvement over the Xbox one X, who is going to get the sales?, that leaves Microsoft in the awkward position where they either go all out again for a bigger jump, then get stung on unit price, or grin and bear it and release something only moderately better, at which point people arent going to see the value in upgrading and instead get the PS5 or the older (and likely by that point, cheaper) Xbox One X.

Just want to point that Brandon (from Easy Allies) beat the game with not touching the lootboxes :s;

Yeah, a friend of mine bought a 4K TV last year and while the difference was noticeable while watching it was nowhere near the jump from 480p to 720p/1080p. As you said, you need a big TV to appreciate the difference - which reminds me that I'll also need a new shelf as my current 47" TV is almost too big already. I do appreciate HDR though, I think color vibrancy is one of the most important things when it comes to displays. For now, I'm happy with my PS4 Slim and 1080p content and I'll probably wait for the next generation of consoles to arrive before I make the jump to 4K. It feels a bit like back in 2005/2006 when Sony and Microsoft were heavily pushing HD gaming but only 1/10 households actually owned an HD TV: The time is just not right yet if you are not a tech enthusiast. But of course, when I feel the itch to buy a new TV it'll be a 4K model.

Well, we all expected sony would release some of the 3Gb of RAM they reserved for the OS in the start of the gen and it didn't happen, so I don't think this will change. Considering my UI is already slow as fuck but I care much more about the game I'm playing I would love base PS4 get 7Gb to games and PS4Pro 8 Gb or close to it even if the UI need to be simplified and less pretty. But we know several users will complain about it.

But perhaps now with X1X having 9Gb for gaming Sony will move to release a little more RAM to help PS4Pro on the 4k aspect.

We gamers are suckers for eyecandy, I'm sure I'm. So even minute differences are talked a lot.

Very dirt move to make noob go against top to face countless frustration and entice the buying of things that won't really help his skills.... love the system GTS will use that take your level and qualification time to make a close matchmaking, most fighting and FPS games with levels do similar things... Activision is really going out of their way to nick and dime the players.

I hope that activision doesn't go through with it otherwise new players won't likely be playing their games after the game gets established.