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I'm sure this is trustworthy, and not at all trying to retroactively justify the shitshow that was #gamergate



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This is why I avoid getting caught up in any kind of online argument, heated or otherwise.
I'm not sure my own failings are hidden deep enough so that they may never see the light of day.

Otherwise, why was there a Gamergate?
If you are extremely friendly to people on whose work you report, you should not be reporting on said people unless you do so from your own blog or your own, personal, channel on Youtube. The moment your views on the product that you report on are compromised, you are a fraud.
I'm really amazed how the whole thing ended up as a feminism vs the world type of war.

I should start a shit storm like that in the literary world of Romania. There's a literary critic that's hyping up this trashy edgy writer lady who he's fucking. I'd love to see some fallout on that.
Yes, I am bitter for spending money on a book that was pure trash, based on a critic's word for it.



I don't want SJW decide what is and isn't appropriate in videogames, (go artustic freedom) but gamergate wasn't exactly all that great either.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
I still don't know what gamergate even is ...

Something of an extreme antiorganisation for SJW and feminist who claim videogames project sexism  on women and affect the way man see women in a negative and therefore videogames support rape culture or something. Which is total horseradish in my opinion, but th he way gamergate operated wasn't much better.



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JinxRake said:
This is why I avoid getting caught up in any kind of online argument, heated or otherwise.
I'm not sure my own failings are hidden deep enough so that they may never see the light of day.

Otherwise, why was there a Gamergate?
If you are extremely friendly to people on whose work you report, you should not be reporting on said people unless you do so from your own blog or your own, personal, channel on Youtube. The moment your views on the product that you report on are compromised, you are a fraud.
I'm really amazed how the whole thing ended up as a feminism vs the world type of war.

I should start a shit storm like that in the literary world of Romania. There's a literary critic that's hyping up this trashy edgy writer lady who he's fucking. I'd love to see some fallout on that.
Yes, I am bitter for spending money on a book that was pure trash, based on a critic's word for it.

I'll have you know Sir/Madam, that we don't take kindly to those who discuss such filthy topics as books in this gaming forum!

Not without a trigger warning at the very least... no one should propagate this deviant behavior of buying books when there's so many good videogames out there to enjoy.

 

:D

 

OT:

As others pointed out, the entire virtue signaling from the vocal SJW crowd was quite transparent. Their reaction reeked of "the lady doth protesteth too much". It always was about pointing out obvious shady behavior in the games' media and NEVER about what the SJW crowd tried to paint it as.



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Qwark said:
I don't want SJW decide what is and isn't appropriate in videogames, (go artustic freedom) but gamergate wasn't exactly all that great either.

Gamergate has been badly slandered and misconstrued by the media. I mean sure, there are some wackos and trolls within it but that's true in just about every group in existance.. In my scrolling through the hashtag over many months (and believe me, I've done TONS) only like 1% of what I've seen can actually be argued as being "sexist" in any way, shape or form. The whole thing is just absurd.

What Gamergate is about at its core is ethics in journalism, along with a resistance of SJW politics imposed upon gaming, especially when it comes to demonizing gamers as "mysogynists" for some reason I still don't quite understand..? I dunno I guess because people were giving shit to a female game dev Zoe Quinn who essentially banged some male reviewers for a good review score, and games journalists, rather than putting the spotlight on the corrupt media for doing so, instead blamed the GAMERS for rightfully calling her and her reviewers out? (I dunno there are probably few that have looked into this more than me and yet I STILL don't fully understand it). But what I do know was that this media slander was an obvious deflection and distraction of the real problem, which, let's face it - mainstream media is extremely good at doing. The difference was that gamers, unlike most normal consumers, tend to be much sharper and more cognisant of the happenings around them, and thus much more willing to defend themselves than other areas of entertainment, and fought back on social media - hence Gamergate.

The whole thing is just really strange and fucked up.. But at the end of the day it essentially ballooned into this fiasco of gamers being slandered and their natural backlash towards this slander, as well as the horrible track record of gaming journalism ethics really coming to light, which - as a gamer reviewer myself I can see. It also kind of veered into this anti-SJW thing because these types were increasingly ganging up on gamers for some weird reason.

But at the end of the day, in an expensive hobby like gaming, gamers expect ethics and journalists they can trust to provde them the info to shell out the big bucks on games, and many, myself included, felt that was called into question. Many of these people might not have been the best at communicating these feelings and some might not have responded in the most diplomatic of ways but essentially this is what I gather was the issue for most, and I felt a lot of it myself. The slander out of nowhere by many of these publications was merely insult to injury.. Hell, Even me personally as a game reviewer, I've essentially been wined and dined during exlusive press showings at E3, which is no doubt to provide positive previews - I can see why some people would be skeptical of these people's sincerity. The Quinn incident only further brought this to light.



 

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Jumpin said:

Are the gamer gate justice crusaders still bravely battling those evil “females” from the “‘puters” of their parents’ basements?

I would hope this post is made in satire?

You know that the stereo types on either side of the argument which were being thrown about were just as bad as each other, neither side is as the opposition paints them to be.

That said... gamergate as a whole can be described as people getting value out of poor choices in degrees at college basically.



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That's equal parts funny and sad to me, but not at all unexpected.



monocle_layton said:
Lawlight said:

Why does it feel to me like you're being defensive?

What started as an actually interesting topic about ethics in the video game industry turned into an absolute cesspool. Pure stupidity from both sides, and truth be told I have almost no knowledge of what happened after the shitfest unleashed

Pretty much an undending, undefendable shitfest.

Like always it started good until it got derailed by people with low moral standards and repressed anger issues. But it's interesting to look at it now that the facts got separated from the myths.



Ganoncrotch said:
Jumpin said:

Are the gamer gate justice crusaders still bravely battling those evil “females” from the “‘puters” of their parents’ basements?

I would hope this post is made in satire?

You know that the stereo types on either side of the argument which were being thrown about were just as bad as each other, neither side is as the opposition paints them to be.

That said... gamergate as a whole can be described as people getting value out of poor choices in degrees at college basically.

Of course.

The issue with those Gamergates, were that they were acting as though they were fighting some unimaginably large crusade against some unimaginably gigantic and terrible demon army. They kept trying to derail threads about gaming, spamming up youtube comment sections with their bullshit of stuff that didn't exist. The one thing they proved is how idiotic and whiney the scum at the bottom of gamer culture could be.



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