What the heck are you on about?

I'm on the same confusion.

Have they took the model of the GT-R in GT5 and called it a mercedes in GTS so no one complain?

The 3D models created for the PS3 game, the original ones, are high quality. They were downgraded to be used on the PS3 game. They are the same they will use on the PS4, if they are including a car that was in the previous games.

When you create a model for a game, like GT6, it has dozens of millions of polygons and extremely detailed maps and textures and so on. They are so detailed that they can't be rendered in real time in any hardware. So, to use it on the PS3, they downgrade it until it is simplified enough (using part of the information of the better models to improve the simplified rendering). But they still have the original models.

Putting it in direct terms:

- Offline renders of GT6 models: millions of polygons, extreme quality maps, massive textures.

- GT6 in-game (simplified version of the models above): hundreds of thousands of polygons, low quality maps, low quality textures.

- GTS in-game (less simplified version of the models above): also hundreds of thousands of polygons, better quality maps, better quality textures.

So, for a PS4 game, they will just downgrade less the original models. That's how you do it today, it's the standard on rendering. DonFerrari wants to compare it with the reuse of PS2 models on the PS3, but the original offline renders of the PS2 models were not great, so they should not be reused. Nowadays the models created are ridiculously good so they have more margin to be reused.

All this discussion is just an attemp to explain the difference between offline vs realtime rendering.

What are you talking about, man? I'm talking about reusing models for cars that were in GT5/6 and are on GTS. Do you know at least the basics of 3D modeling? It looks like you don't here, since you are assuming the models created for GT6 are not adequate. There's no point in recreating them, they will just do it for cars that are new to GTS. It's not like EVERY single car on GTS was not on GT5/6. It's quite obvious that the ones who DON'T have to be modeled from scratch here. I don't really get you point.

If you want to continue, post a good and reasonable technical explanation why the models (the original, not the in-game ones) created for GT6 are not good enough. I have the impression you don't know how this works.

Here’s a thorough and fair review by Inside Sim Racing.

They seem to like it.

https://youtu.be/QAiumRUyy2g

The 3D models created for the PS3 game, the original ones, are high quality. They were downgraded to be used on the PS3 game. They are the same they will use on the PS4, if they are including a car that was in the previous games.

When you create a model for a game, like GT6, it has dozens of millions of polygons and extremely detailed maps and textures and so on. They are so detailed that they can't be rendered in real time in any hardware. So, to use it on the PS3, they downgrade it until it is simplified enough (using part of the information of the better models to improve the simplified rendering). But they still have the original models.

Putting it in direct terms:

- Offline renders of GT6 models: millions of polygons, extreme quality maps, massive textures.

- GT6 in-game (simplified version of the models above): hundreds of thousands of polygons, low quality maps, low quality textures.

- GTS in-game (less simplified version of the models above): also hundreds of thousands of polygons, better quality maps, better quality textures.

So, for a PS4 game, they will just downgrade less the original models. That's how you do it today, it's the standard on rendering. DonFerrari wants to compare it with the reuse of PS2 models on the PS3, but the original offline renders of the PS2 models were not great, so they should not be reused. Nowadays the models created are ridiculously good so they have more margin to be reused.

All this discussion is just an attemp to explain the difference between offline vs realtime rendering.

What are you talking about, man? I'm talking about reusing models for cars that were in GT5/6 and are on GTS. Do you know at least the basics of 3D modeling? It looks like you don't here, since you are assuming the models created for GT6 are not adequate. There's no point in recreating them, they will just do it for cars that are new to GTS. It's not like EVERY single car on GTS was not on GT5/6. It's quite obvious that the ones who DON'T have to be modeled from scratch here. I don't really get you point.

If you want to continue, post a good and reasonable technical explanation why the models (the original, not the in-game ones) created for GT6 are not good enough. I have the impression you don't know how this works.

User reviews are even lower than the critic reviews. 6.3/10 on Metacritic; 3.6/5 on Best Buy US, 2.5/5 on Amazon US, UK, France, and Germany; 1.8/5 on Gamestop US. People aren't happy, seems a good many people didn't know about the online focus, lack of a proper campaign, lack of full customization, and low car and track counts beforehand and just bought the game because it carried the GT name, and now they are disappointed with their purchase.

So people that like Racing simulation appreciate the game? Seem Red Bull also liked.

Real car and racing lovers seem to love the game. Casuals just don’t get it.

I'm pissed with the loss of my loved career and 1200 option of cars, but I understand the direction and hope they iron it out and are successfull. But most of the GTS threads people were going to bash in VGC had people that either don't like racing or like arcade racing to complain about GT, it was funny. Some were real fans of GT that were unhappy with the changes, and we will have to see how this will affect the overall sales. Stil, the score is totally untrue of the quality of the game. I can understand someone not passionatd about sim or missing older GT giving low 80's, but anything below 80 for a game like this is like trolling.

This is simply not true. All cars in GTS were newly modelled for a reason. Quality above quantity. Just one car in GTS takes 4-6 months to model. The cars are modelled in 8K sufficient detail so they can use them for the next gen version.

So people that like Racing simulation appreciate the game? Seem Red Bull also liked.