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Bayonetta 3 !!!



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If this is to be believed than I think Nintendo would need an exclusive fps series like Turok had been in the N64 days. It should NOT be like Turok, mind you. Just a regular soulless fps. It wouldn't even matter who develops it. Just make it brown and grey and have some guns. More is not needed.

Also, they would need a generic sandbox game. Doesn't even have to be very creative. Just let a generic character run around in a city and wreak havoc while accidentally fulfilling missions.

Also, they would need another action-rpg like Skyrim, just with a typical copypasted sci-fi look or a cookiecut fantasy setting with a typical morale system where your actions and answers to random characters seems to influence your development but in the end all strings lead to the same result anyway.

All of these need to have the exact same "art style", of course. They would go well with Wolfenstein II and Doom on one hand but you also must remember that a steady flow of more NBA 2Ks and WWE 2Ks comes as a side dish, too. No more FIFA is going to come, though. EA probably won't be satisfied with FIFA 18's sales, no matter how good the numbers turn out to be. But anyway, this should still be enough to make some kids who believe they are adults go have a look into the Switch.



princevenom said:
this is big news

No it isn't. Nintendo has had this stance since 2011 and 3DS, hence the 1st Senran Kagura and a couple of other ecchi games on 3DS between 2011 and 2013. Nintendo lost those games because the mature audience migrated to PS4/PSV. That has nothing to do with Nintendo's monitoring.

Similarly, COD, AC and stuff were released on WiiU and failed miserably, again because the audience wasn't there. Consequently, their publishers do nothing for mature games on Switch.

Nintendo "wanting" mature games on Switch won't magically grant them tons of 3rd party titles. There are lot of technical, marketing parameters to take into account. Moneyhatting Nights of Azure or Gal Gun isn't enough to turn the tides in their favor : why would people want a Switch if they can have those titles on PS4 1/with better graphics 2/ with trophies? Nights of Azure 2 sales on Switch account for a mere 13% of the total.

The best thing they can do is to show the way with mature 1st party titles. Obviously Metroid Prime 4 can be one of those, but they need a lot more.



wombat123 said:

My opinion: Nintendo needs to put up or shut up by showing 3rd parties that mature games can sell on the Switch by making one themselves. I'm not talking about paying a developer to make one for them, I'm talking about them making one internally within their EPD studios. And as of right now, Metroid Prime 4 is their perfect opportunity to show that they can make an M-Rated game that can sell well on the Switch.  They wouldn't even have to do much; just bump up the gore and horror aspects of the series.

I agree that this would be a good showing.  It is a fine line though.  The mature titles already exist with other companies.  Nintendo could risk damaging their reputation if they stray too far from their branding.  Family games are very lucrative and now other game company has captured the family and kid market like Nintendo has and they have spent a lot of effort trying.  I will say that they need mature titles sooner rather than later.  Developing a new franchise if they have not already been doing so will happen too late for what they need. 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Shaunodon said:

Around 3mil for Bloodborne and what, about 1mil+ for Nioh?

For relatively niche titles of a more 'mature' genre, those numbers are no joke.

I don't see why it'd be so crazy.

Nioh isn't a From Software title ... you basically just admitted to knowing nothing, lol. (By the way, Nioh sold 1 million in two weeks. It's probably at 2 mil)

(oops...sorry about this second part if you read it! haha misread your comment, thought you said the numbers were a joke)

I never said Nioh was a FromSoft title, which is why I referred to them as "relatively niche titles of a more 'mature' genre". I mentioned it because we were talking about Dark Souls esque games/spinoffs; I thought that would be pretty self-explanatory, but thanks for jumping the gun to try and prove my ignorance.



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There is a wave of maturity on the Switch right now and it could phase out or keep building depending on the next few moves. 

"Mario" tends to slant it toward younger audiences, but perhaps Doom and Skyrim will help maintain the momentum.  If Metroid does not come out next year, then it will not help this.  They may be asking for mature 3rd party titles aggressively because they are hitting setbacks or delays in the Metroid development and do not expect a 2018 release, so they need mature titles to fill that gap.

Having said this, Switch is pressing a lot of different buttons, each that need to be developed and catered to going forward to maintain success. I'll go through some and rate the momentum on a scale of percentage to maximization. These momentums are not evidenced necessarily by existing titles but by current and future potential and expectations.  There is

-The "Indie" effect - closely related to the retro effect (Switch has this at 99%) This has a natural drive for Puzzle adventures, Retro titles, Party games, Horror games, and more Creative titles.

-The "Multiplayer" effect (At about 65% due to the nature of the system, joycons, portability, pick up and play, etc.) However, it does need a Mario Party of some sort and Smash Brothers or some other heavy hitters soon.  If "Morphies Law" turns out good, then this could be the app to propel this effect.

-The "Mature - Horror" effect (At about 40% due to Thumper and the darker skew of a few other indie titles, and in part BoTW)  Even though there are not many games that could be given the Horror tag, the mature advertising has helped this dramatically as does the personal and interactive nature of the Switch.  It really makes the games more personal.  Mix this with indie titles that have darker themes and you actually have a really great platform for horror titles.  This will not really be apparent until more horror titles release.

-The "Epic experience" effect (At about 50% due to Breath of the Wild setting the standard with big open worlds, however the indie titles have really brought this momentum down considerably)

-The "Mature - Other" effect (At about 50% due to the advertising and design of Switch) I personally think that the Mature - Horror is much more lucrative in driving future Mature - Other titles with Indies and Doom leading the way,  this section will increase with time if Nintendo can catch the natural potential for horror experiences.  This will bring on other shooters and mature titles.

-The "Sports" effect - (30%) The potential is there only due to the flexibility, maturity, and ease of use of the Switch design.  Time will tell if the sports crowd fully embraces.  Many many factors involved here, like Europe system sales and initial titles convincing EA and other major sports developers.  Unfortunately, this is not a genre that is leveraged by Indie genre types.

-The "MMO" effect - (40%)  Yes, the Switch even has this.  With MMOs being considered and coming, the portability of the console could cause this genre to have a further surge. This could be a key driver in some world markets.

IF all of these and a few other waves line up well (and competitors do not complicate), then we will have the best selling console of all time. It is about balancing existing assets, new assets, and strategic genre distribution.  Thankfully Switch has opportunities in all of these momentums.  Not many consoles in the industry history can say that. Those that could, were usually the best selling.



Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

Bayonetta 3 !!!

Yes please,and a bayonetta collection too!I want play bayo 2 so badly,but i can't afford(nor want) a wii u at this point.



Shaunodon said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Nioh isn't a From Software title ... you basically just admitted to knowing nothing, lol. (By the way, Nioh sold 1 million in two weeks. It's probably at 2 mil)

(oops...sorry about this second part if you read it! haha misread your comment, thought you said the numbers were a joke)

I never said Nioh was a FromSoft title, which is why I referred to them as "relatively niche titles of a more 'mature' genre". I mentioned it because we were talking about Dark Souls esque games/spinoffs; I thought that would be pretty self-explanatory, but thanks for jumping the gun to try and prove my ignorance.

No problem. Glad I could help.



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Shaunodon said:

I never said Nioh was a FromSoft title, which is why I referred to them as "relatively niche titles of a more 'mature' genre". I mentioned it because we were talking about Dark Souls esque games/spinoffs; I thought that would be pretty self-explanatory, but thanks for jumping the gun to try and prove my ignorance.

No problem. Glad I could help.

So instead of a simple "sorry, I was wrong", you divert to bland sarcasm. I see.



Shaunodon said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

No problem. Glad I could help.

So instead of a simple "sorry, I was wrong", you divert to bland sarcasm. I see.

Well do you have anything more to add to the conversation except for expecting an apology for an honest mistake? I already apologized in the comment for making one mistake, I shouldn't have to apologize again. If you don't have anything to add to the conversation then don't say anything at all.