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Forums - Politics Discussion - Is it time to worry about Austria again?

 

Who should I vote?

ÖVP 16 12.40%
 
SPÖ 13 10.08%
 
FPÖ 39 30.23%
 
Grüne 16 12.40%
 
NEOS 3 2.33%
 
Other 4 3.10%
 
Don't vote 13 10.08%
 
Scoreboard 25 19.38%
 
Total:129
palou on 13 October 2017
Volterra_90 said:
palou said:

They're working on that, currently, actually, with heavy support from key nations (France, Germany, Italy, Spain...)

I'd say that Spain or Italy are far from a key EU nation tbh XD

Well, UK's out, so who else, after France/Germany?



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Kerotan on 14 October 2017

Look on the brightside. At least then your football team wouldn't be terrible. Although I did enjoy my trip to Austria recently watching the Irish thump you out of the WC :)



vivster on 14 October 2017

Just vote the ones that are the least Nazi. Which means the most center you can get.



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Flilix on 14 October 2017

Is FPÖ equally bad as AfD? Or are they more like a normal far right party, like FN in France?

I mean, FN is horrible too, but at least they have a political program that's more than just 'kick all Muslims out of Deutschland'.



Vinther1991 on 14 October 2017

The first thing you should worry about is your rhetoric. A burqa ban is not racist



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Vinther1991 on 14 October 2017
RolStoppable said:
Vinther1991 said:
The first thing you should worry about is your rhetoric. A burqa ban is not racist

What is it then?

It’s a tool to integrate muslims better into western society, and get rid of the parallel-society we have gotten in Europe. A woman wearing a burqa can’t get a job or interact well with western civilisation in any way. With a burqa ban you clearly show that if you decide to live in Europe, you live in accordance with European culture and leave the female-opressive elements of your middle-eastern culture and religion behind



Volterra_90 on 14 October 2017
palou said:
Volterra_90 said:

I'd say that Spain or Italy are far from a key EU nation tbh XD

Well, UK's out, so who else, after France/Germany?

Well, Rol gave you the right answer XD. Nobody.



Vinther1991 on 14 October 2017
RolStoppable said:
Vinther1991 said:

It’s a tool to integrate muslims better into western society, and get rid of the parallel-society we have gotten in Europe. A woman wearing a burqa can’t get a job or interact well with western civilisation in any way. With a burqa ban you clearly show that if you decide to live in Europe, you live in accordance with European culture and leave the female-opressive elements of your middle-eastern culture and religion behind

That doesn't line up with the facts though. The people who put this law in place in Austria didn't make it a law against burqas, but really everything that a face can be covered with. It's so ridiculous in its execution that the driver for the decision has to be xenophobic motivations. Here's a fun story:

https://www.thelocal.at/20171010/shark-mask-wearer-falls-foul-of-austrias-burqa-law

It's not a joke. This is real.

Here's an article about how big of an issue the burqa is in Austria:

https://qz.com/1090885/austria-just-slapped-a-burqa-ban-on-the-150-women-who-dare-to-wear-one/

One hundred and fifty.

I said a burqa ban was a good idea (and not racist, you still didn’t explain why it is) I didn’t endorse the way it was implemented in Austria. There is a, I might say, ‘dated’ and unnuanced human right that prohibit any sort of discrimination of a religion, which is why they made the law this way. They could probably still modify it so it works as intended.

The fact that a burqa ban would only target 150 or so is a bad argument not to make it. If only 150 were affected by pedophilia, should that then be legal? A small step in the right direction is still a step in the right direction. Besides, it also has a strong signal value, that we don’t accept religiosly justified female opression.



Proxy-Pie on 14 October 2017

Why should I worry about a rump state :P



Vas-y on 14 October 2017


I hope this lawbreaker will be sent to jail immediately.
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