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Who should I vote?

ÖVP 16 12.40%
 
SPÖ 13 10.08%
 
FPÖ 39 30.23%
 
Grüne 16 12.40%
 
NEOS 3 2.33%
 
Other 4 3.10%
 
Don't vote 13 10.08%
 
Scoreboard 25 19.38%
 
Total:129
palou on 13 October 2017

 

RolStoppable said:

 The ÖVP is pretty much the Austrian equivalent of Merkel's CDU in Germany while the FPÖ's German equivalent is the AfD. 

With the slight difference that the CDU wouldn't actually ever consider forming a coalition with the AFD.



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palou on 13 October 2017
RolStoppable said:
palou said:

With the slight difference that the CDU wouldn't actually ever consider forming a coalition with the AFD.

Only because the CSU already fills that role.

Good point, lol.

 

But I'm pretty sure Merkel also understands her electorate enough to know to keep a distance from the AfD. There are far more people strongly against the AFD than people strongly for, and the latter are voting AfD anyways.

 

They're also a party that whose whole existence is justified by 1 unpopular decision of Merkel, and pretty much identify themselves as being anti-Merkel. It's not something that could happen, I think.



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palou on 13 October 2017

Do you have a threshold (min. 5% to be in parliament)? If yes, vote Grüne, to put them in it, and potentially give FPÖ a bit less presence...



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p0isonparadise on 13 October 2017
RolStoppable said:

So what's next for Austria in the near future is that there is going to be a referendum to join Germany. I don't want to live in the same country as vivster. I wish I was overexaggerating, but this isn't like the presidential election last year where a positive outcome was more probable than a negative outcome.

Do many Austrians really want to join Germany? 



RidingMower on 13 October 2017
RolStoppable said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Austria banned the burqa? Congrats!

Among other things. Certain cosplay (anything that covers faces) is prohibited and only allowed on certain days of the year now, otherwise €150 fine.

That's horrible! You mean to say nobody can wear a Mario mustache over there? I'm sorry to hear that.



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p0isonparadise on 13 October 2017
RolStoppable said:
p0isonparadise said:

Do many Austrians really want to join Germany? 

I don't think so. After all, we are people with strong feelings of xenophobia.

But there are people in the FPÖ - last year I was told not to refer to them as a nazi party - who are members of a club that considers Germany and Austria as one and the same country regardless of borders. Who knows what happens when such a party gains too much power.

I just did a bit of reading on what's going on and apparently one of the FPO's local councillors was accused of saying "Heil Hitler!" at a meeting last week, how charming. 

It looks like Kurz will be your new chancellor. The scared Catholics will make sure of that.



fatslob-:O on 13 October 2017

I sort of doubt Austria would ever join Germany when the worldwide trend is more nationalism and sovereignty movements such as when we saw with Catalonia in Spain ...

Germany dislikes FPO's idea of withdrawing EU membership and German legislature would also have to agree with it but I doubt they would since that just makes AfD more powerful when combined with the FPO/OVP like you said ...

EU is a failed project anyways since the governing council have no way to guarantee what a sovereign nation may or may not do ...



palou on 13 October 2017
fatslob-:O said:


EU is a failed project anyways since the governing council have no way to guarantee what a sovereign nation may or may not do ...

They're working on that, currently, actually, with heavy support from key nations (France, Germany, Italy, Spain...)



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fatslob-:O on 13 October 2017
palou said:

They're working on that, currently, actually, with heavy support from key nations (France, Germany, Italy, Spain...)

Yeah ... 

Support from France won't last very long considering Emmanuel Macron's approval ratings are tanking faster than Trump's ... (their last episode consisted of disasterous Francois Hollande, I can only imagine Emmanuel Macron becoming another stepping stone for Front National) 

Spain is too busy dealing with Catalonia's potential independence movement and if the outcome is independence then remaining with EU will be a sour taste for Spain ... 

Italy is ambivalent so far ... 



Volterra_90 on 13 October 2017
palou said:
fatslob-:O said:


EU is a failed project anyways since the governing council have no way to guarantee what a sovereign nation may or may not do ...

They're working on that, currently, actually, with heavy support from key nations (France, Germany, Italy, Spain...)

I'd say that Spain or Italy are far from a key EU nation tbh XD