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Lawlight said:

What did you expect from an institution that gave Roman Polanski a standing ovation.

Sounds like a Polack.



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o_O.Q said:

i'd seriously like to hear where you've gotten this idea from? is it college classes? i mean no offense but i'm seriously curious about that


No offense taken, we don't agree on this but I take no offense there my friend

And nope, I don't take ideas from college or any other place where ideas are to some extent imprinted or brainwashed into us, I'm a freethinker and I forge my own opinions.

I'd love to ask you the same question, where did you get the idea that communism is intrinsically bad and flawed? And while we're on this, where did you get the idea that capitalism is intrinsically good?

Communism at the root means putting things in common, like families do. What is wrong about a mother breastfeeding her child without asking the child to pay in dollars for the milk? Or asking the child to pay cause he/she gets to sleep for free in the parent's home? Putting resources in common is what families are all about and it works fairly well don't you think? Whereas capitalism at the root is the actual opposite. There is no version of capitalism where people are not pitched against each other to make more money and to try to have a better life than their neighbor cause capitalism is all about competition just like animals in nature, hence my point where I say, through our technology we extracted ourselves from nature but why? We are doing the same we used to do in nature, competing against each other, crushing others to succeed and survive, so what is the point of extracting ourselfs from nature if we are going to act exactly as we did when we were part of the food chain?

So my example of a family demonstrates that North Korean or USSR communisn is NOT all communism can be. That communism is bad because it is applied by people with predatorial instincts, (same instincts capitalism requires) they are not enforcing communism for the good of people, they are enforcing it cause it suits their personal interests of having power and keeping everyone else poor and miserable as a means of control and CONTROL is exactly what capitalism is all about.

In capitalism you give the illusion of freedom. Work hard and you'll be free. And people believe it so the elites control people just as communists in Russia and North Korea control people, only their message is: Love your country, do as we say and you'll be free.

And evolution is as you describe it ONLY for a time, until evolution brings intelligence and sentience, when that point is crossed as it is with us humans, the big paradigm shift happens and a new evolution takes place. An evolution where we need to learn to work together for the betterment of all (true communism) but in order to get there we need to overcome our predatorial instincts in which we want to crush others to get higher for ourselves. We are actually getting there but only partially so far. Our intelligence has allowed us to understand that in order to implement progress we must work together and that's why companies and corporations are made of thousands of individuals cause alone we are screwed but together we can get things done.

But that is still not enough as we see it everywhere in the world, with wars, famine,injustice, social unbalance of all kinds. Working together in small groups of a few thousands (corporations) is not enough, it does not set all mankind free, its ONLY a partial solution to the problem. And that's why evolution gave us sentience and intelligence so that one day in the future we will unite, we will not be predatorial anymore we will not crush anyone for us to succeed and that's when true communism can take place. We won't call it communism cause that word is forever sullied by those communist dictatorships we see today like North Korea. We'll use some other word but communist is what we will be, if we don't destroy ourselves before of course.

EDIT: And I would like to give my response to this specific line which is I believe a central point in this debate:

o_O.Q said:

why is it bad to tell people that they should work hard and earn their keep instead of looking suck off the tits of the state?


Because it is the perfect example of how capitalism has fooled everyone into thinking that the governement OWNS our lives and that they OWN all the riches and that we are worthless and have no right to anything when we start in life. BUT if we want to be a person worthy of the name we must work hard like drones to earn a small part of the riches the government wants us to believe they own. When you see this for what it is, you realize how capitalism is nothing but control. The elites deciding that wealth belongs to them and we must earn our share when in fact the wealth is part of the world and as such it belongs to everyone to begin with and NOT to a small group of elites who took it all for themselves in order to control us by throwing scraps at us in exchange for our submission (work hard all your life for your company, give them your time, your health and your faith and on top of that, call it freedom, yeah right)

It's as if the governement said: Hey we own the air, so from now on if you want to breathe you must pay us for it. And believe us without question when we say: If you refuse to pay for the air you breathe, you are a parasite living off the government's air, you worthless human. Everyone that blindly believe us and pay for air, shame that individual that dares say air should be free.