| o_O.Q said:
"Isn't that the whole point of evolving? " the point of evolution is to produce organisms that are more and more adapted to their environment ( in other worlds to cause differentiation and hierarchy ) because the environment is constantly shifting so no you are stating evolution is the opposite of what it actually is
"in our cities you're not going to fall victim to a hungry lion that may try to eat you and your children, instead you now can fall victim to money, or lack thereof."
we fall victim to many many things which is why we seek to ascend hierachies to become more powerful - the only situation where this would not happen would be in a world where there is complete safety and there is no variation between people - the communist utopia but come on its a joke... its as unrealistic as the christian idea of heaven, well i'd argue even more so
"Humans are yet to realize that."
i think you are yet to realise human nature
"then there is no real point in having extracted ourselves from nature. This proves that we are still very primitive and not yet really civilized."
i wonder if you are realising that you are equating individuality ( which gave rise to technology and civilisation to begin with ) as uncivilised... look humans are not and can never be perfect and our environment is not and can never be perfect and that is why we have drives that cause us to advance the world you wish for is only a fairy tale
"Those who don't understand this simply can't see the big picture and progress cannot be expected from them."
lol you have communist utopian ideology motivating you... i don't really think you are in a position to make that argument
looks like people are ripe for creating another soviet union with all of the communist talk i'm seeing recently... its unfortunate, but i suppose its because people aren't being taught the truth with regards to many things |
You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with communism. When did I say I was for communism? I only said at the beginning that capitalism defeated communism but capitalism only got us so far, you are deluded if you believe capitalism is the ultimate solution to our problems and that nothing better will ever be invented.
As for evolution its point is to produce (eventually) intelligence and self awareness which it has done with us humans and intelligence has allowed us to extract ourselves from the food chain and to master technology which in turn we use to better our lives so from that point it is logical to assume that eventually we'll create a society where predatory systems are a thing of the past, it cannot be otherwise cause without it, intelligence would be pointless, if we are only capable of creating a system that is predatory in its own way, there would be no substantial difference between staying in nature with its food chain and extracting ourselves from it.
You obviously don't understand evolution since you don't understand this concept. And yes, humanity is definitely uncivilized, what part of the wars, the abuses, slavery and other such predatory behaviors of humans you don't understand, what is civilized about that? And you add that we can never be perfect. But I never said we will ever be. But that does not mean we will NEVER develop a non predatory culture. How can you say we won't? Do you know the future? Do you know what mankind will be thousands of years from now? No, you most definitely don't.
You need to look at the big picture and you need to understand what makes us humans and what makes us humans is what will one day set us free and become actually civilized.
But if you don't understand that then we can not agree to anything, I'm afraid.
