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CrazyGamer2017 said:
o_O.Q said:

no... its called a dominance hierarchy and is inherent to life as a living organism

the animal kingdom doesn't have currency and yet the stronger animal or those that have more resources have more influence and power

 

this idea that this comes about because of some political ideology called capitalism is just silly

Which demonstrates that our predatory instincts have not changed despite having evolved from primates. Our predatory methods to dominate are simply more refined and complex as capitalism demonstrates.

And if you don't realize that you are the silly one, my friend.

 

"Which demonstrates that our predatory instincts have not changed despite having evolved from primates. Our predatory methods to dominate are simply more refined and complex as capitalism demonstrates."

 

despite? why would you expect such a trait to ever fall away? life is primarily about survival and reproduction right? and how do you do so? by becoming stronger and gathering resources

life is also about variety

both of these characteristics are always going to be present for humans and even in a perfect communist utopia ( which is impossible ) they will never fall away despite you appearing to  believe that will be the case

there is always going to be struggle to rise to the top of the hierarchy and those that reach there will in some cases use their power to harm those below them, its innate to the human and by extension animal condition unless you're a mindless drone like an ant or bee ( communism )

people are becoming so separated from reality that its alarming lol



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
6 comments in this thread and we already have racist comments and a stupid ignorant comment trying to defend the rapists...

Kinda what you have to expect here XD racism has always been an issue on the site



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CrazyGamer2017 said:
ZODIARKrebirth said:

seems if you have money you can do everything...

What do you mean it seems? If you have money you can do pretty much anything, why did you think everybody is fighting every day for money?

It's called capitalism and it won against communism so all is well that ends well.

KratosLives said:
this shit has been going on since the beginning of hollywood when jewish american big bosses took over. This happens all the time and hopefully more people come out.

You do realize what you just said is plain racist right?

Jewish Americans? Right cause no other boss in the history of American bosses have ever been guilty of that or any other crimes. It's because they're Jewish American, rape is in their genes or something.

 

People seem to automatically think racist without thinking about it. Lets not deny the fact that hollywood is jewish owned and run, from majority of actors to directors, producers , screen writers , studio bosses and every other label you can think of. I'm strictly referring to those in hollywood, and i respect the average jewish citizen, so please don't label me anti semite.  It started off from the bosses taking advantage of gentile woman , it was documented, and then it grew. Now all woman affected. 



Hollywood is and always was full of it...

 

https://youtu.be/jSiq0qX-lQk

 



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"You are damaging an entire industry"

 

https://youtu.be/rujeOqadOVQ



o_O.Q said:

despite? why would you expect such a trait to ever fall away? life is primarily about survival and reproduction right? and how do you do so? by becoming stronger and gathering resources

life is also about variety

both of these characteristics are always going to be present for humans and even in a perfect communist utopia ( which is impossible ) they will never fall away despite you appearing to  believe that will be the case

there is always going to be struggle to rise to the top of the hierarchy and those that reach there will in some cases use their power to harm those below them, its innate to the human and by extension animal condition unless you're a mindless drone like an ant or bee ( communism )

people are becoming so separated from reality that its alarming lol

Why would I expect such traits to fall away? Gee I don't know, maybe because we are evolving? We don't need to go in the woods to hunt a gazelle to bring food to our families anymore because we have evolved.

It is very reasonable to think that with our ingenuity and our intelligence we should be capable of building a society that is not based on the predatory model of nature anymore. Isn't that the whole point of evolving? Why bother extracting ourselves from the food chain and from being hunted by other animals if we are going to replace all that circle of life crap with a new model that in the end is the same predatory thing as we see in nature, only more refined and complex.

Capitalism is the human version of the food chain we see in nature, in our cities you're not going to fall victim to a hungry lion that may try to eat you and your children, instead you now can fall victim to money, or lack thereof.

Humans are yet to realize that. If our mastery of technology and civilization ends up putting us in a system similar to that we see in nature, then there is no real point in having extracted ourselves from nature. This proves that we are still very primitive and not yet really civilized.

Those who don't understand this simply can't see the big picture and progress cannot be expected from them.



KratosLives said:

People seem to automatically think racist without thinking about it. Lets not deny the fact that hollywood is jewish owned and run, from majority of actors to directors, producers , screen writers , studio bosses and every other label you can think of. I'm strictly referring to those in hollywood, and i respect the average jewish citizen, so please don't label me anti semite.  It started off from the bosses taking advantage of gentile woman , it was documented, and then it grew. Now all woman affected. 

Oh but I always think about what I say and your comment is the text book definition of racism. You clearly said "this shit is going on since the beginning of Hollywood when the Jewish American big bosses took over".

This "shit" is the rape thing, and you say it's been going on since Hollywood has been taken over by JEWISH people. As if the fact that a person becomes a boss and is Jewish automatically means that person is a rapist. As if rape was a racial issue, as if a non jew could not rape.

Then you realize how this backfires and you try to shift the issue in another direction by saying "Let's not deny Hollywood is Jewish owned..."

That may or may not be true but what does that have to do with the issue of rape? And if it's true, which it is not, but for argument's sake let's say it is, it would only mean that Jews are smart people capable of climbing to the top. So the question is, does that bother you so much that you need to try and imply that rapes happen because Jews are bosses? Cause I simply don't see the connection.

The issue here is people with money and power think they can get away with almost anything period.



KratosLives said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

What do you mean it seems? If you have money you can do pretty much anything, why did you think everybody is fighting every day for money?

It's called capitalism and it won against communism so all is well that ends well.

You do realize what you just said is plain racist right?

Jewish Americans? Right cause no other boss in the history of American bosses have ever been guilty of that or any other crimes. It's because they're Jewish American, rape is in their genes or something.

 

People seem to automatically think racist without thinking about it. Lets not deny the fact that hollywood is jewish owned and run, from majority of actors to directors, producers , screen writers , studio bosses and every other label you can think of. I'm strictly referring to those in hollywood, and i respect the average jewish citizen, so please don't label me anti semite.  It started off from the bosses taking advantage of gentile woman , it was documented, and then it grew. Now all woman affected. 

Uh, what? This shit has been happening since men have had power. Why single out Jews? Were Bill Cosby, Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes Jewish? You took a topic that's rampant among all industry and society in general and singled out one group. Why? 



Some other big Hollywood shot apparently also just got accused by an actress. Also a new book from Clinton or something talks about how Bill would just grope everyone. Lots of despicable men in power it seems.

Oh and Ben Affleck has been getting flack lately. While yes I can't deny that he is on tape groping a woman, a lot of the flack he is getting seems dumb imo. It's not just him, a lot of holleywood MEN are getting ripped a new one for allowing this to knowingly happen. To me that seems a bit hypocritical. It seems like apparently all of Hollywood knew of this, men and women. Heck you have women saying they were warned by others, superstars like Jolie saying they refused to work with him due to something he tried, ect.

I can understand if its one or a couple women that were victims and coming forward they would be ignored/shunned/ect. but this sounds like not just hundreds but EVERYONE knew. Could not these women joined together and came forward? It sure seems to be having an effect today by doing so. Why couldn't they have done this 15 years ago. I'd like to think if basically every actress working came forward 15 years ago something would have been done.

I hate to sound like I'm blaming the victim, but its hard not to think why didn't you women all speak up. You had the numbers.

But Hollywood and police are despicable. Heck there are tapes that flat out catch him doing what he is accused of doing and nothing happened. What is the point of a police sting if when the sting succeeds you still just brush it under the table. Or this contract. It basically is worded so that he can not be fired for breaking any and all HR rules. A fine for 1st time, larger fine for 2nd time, even bigger for 3rd, then at 4+ a set amount. Um, hello. By 3rd strike anyone should be fired.