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Kerotan on 12 October 2017
Leadified said:

The only years where the 360 outsold the PS3 were 2006 and 2008 (by VGC's numbers), otherwise they were neck-in-neck or the PS3 was ahead. The main problem for the PS3 is the 360 had a year head start that allowed the 360 to have a 6 million lead by the time the PS3 launched.

Meanwhile the Xbox One has yet to come close to even matching the PS4's yearly sales so overall the XBO does not compare with the PS3.

I'm not basing this on who sells more. Just their respective situations.  Like ps3 got a lot of goodwill back in the second half of the gen.  Which made it much easier for Sony to drum up hype for the ps4 launch.  

 

Can MS do something similar to launch a comeback next gen?  Can Sony do the same again and capture even more marketshare from MS for the ps5?



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Finale on 12 October 2017
d21lewis said:
Finale said:

The reason ps4 is ahead of xbox is because of that infamous e3 2013 and all that other things microsoft tried to throw at us(24 hours online,kinect,you know all).It has nothing to do with the ps3 setting stage for ps4.And the xbone situation now is way worse than the early ps3 years.I don't think they can do anything now,aside of feed their own fans with new hardware.

The reason PS4 is ahead of Xbox (which I prefer over PlayStation, actually) is because PlayStation was always the bigger brand. From PS2 days to now, Sony just has legions and legions of fans. To me, for the first several years, the Xbox 360 experience was infinitely better than what PlayStation was offering but, for whatever reason, they just couldn't garner the loyalty and good will that Sony has.

"The first five million are going to buy it (PS3), whatever it is, even [if] it didn't have games." (David Reeves on the PS3 launch, 2007)

 

true,but the sony brand loyaltie is not enough to justify the huge disparity between the xbox and ps4 today.The disastrous xbox one reveal is what cause the gap to be this bad imo.If wasn't for that,microsoft could form a solid brand with time(it took psx and ps2 for sony to achieve that,after all).

Ps: and i also agree that in the first years the xbox 360 experience was superior,but unfortunatelly i got the RRoD,so i don't have good memories of microsoft consoles myself.But i'll try to stay fair in my opinions.



Leadified on 12 October 2017
Wright said:
Leadified said:

The last shipment stated by Sony was 80 million in November 2013 while MS posted a 84 million shipment in June 2014.  The IDC suggests that the PS3 was ahead of the 360 (77 to 76) as of December 2012, how they got that data is not clear. No one really knows for sure who ended up on top but the general consensus seems to be that the PS3 managed to eventually edge out the 360.

The numbers of IDC must be wrong because MS reported 76m of Xbox 360s being sold by February 2013. It's impossible that MS had reached that milestone by December 2012, and I'm fairly sure Sony's numbers are off too, as there's sources of them selling 70m PS3s by November 2012.

This is where numbers get extremely weird, as apparently MS's first fiscal quarter of 2013 establishes a 70m sales figure as well. But somehow, they also made the 76m milestone in February of 2013. Outside that 70m PS3 source I provided, VGsales only indicates that by the end of 2012's fiscal year PS3 has sold approximatedly 63.9m and that Sony stopped giving shipment figures afterward. This is probably the part where I get a bit lost, as there's two different numbers being provided.

Wikipedia states that Xbox 360 is still on top of PS3, the former having 84m sales reported, and the later, 83.6m (approximatedly). The only thing Wikipedia adds to this are the following note/statements:

PlayStation 3: A Sony press release reported 80 million sold as of November 2, 2013.[23] 3.4 million were shipped in 2014 and 0.4 million in the first quarter of 2015. (Doesn't specify where did they take these numbers)

By October, 2013, Xbox 360 reached the http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-360-sales-reach-80-million-units/1100-6415644/">80m figure milestone, a month prior of Sony's milestone. While looking at this now, it certainly looks more plausible that PS3 eventually edged 360, but it also means that by June 2014, which is when Xbox 360 reached the 84m milestone, PS3 was still in third place. I think last time I made calculations going from both the 80m and 84m figures onwards using VGC data and 360 still came on top.

Yeah, the only thing that we can really go on is the official shipments from Sony and MS since the third party figures are all over the place. It's a bit annoying that Sony stops publishing figures, they did the same thing with the PS2 and PSP so we'll never know the final tally.



Leadified on 12 October 2017
Kerotan said:
Leadified said:

The only years where the 360 outsold the PS3 were 2006 and 2008 (by VGC's numbers), otherwise they were neck-in-neck or the PS3 was ahead. The main problem for the PS3 is the 360 had a year head start that allowed the 360 to have a 6 million lead by the time the PS3 launched.

Meanwhile the Xbox One has yet to come close to even matching the PS4's yearly sales so overall the XBO does not compare with the PS3.

I'm not basing this on who sells more. Just their respective situations.  Like ps3 got a lot of goodwill back in the second half of the gen.  Which made it much easier for Sony to drum up hype for the ps4 launch.  

 

Can MS do something similar to launch a comeback next gen?  Can Sony do the same again and capture even more marketshare from MS for the ps5?

The difference is that despite the PS3's rocky start, Sony managed to capitalize on the 360's hardware issues and paid extra features. The PS4 is far from perfect but there isn't really anything wrong with it that MS can really capitalize on right now.

It would take massively screwing up the PS5 for Microsoft to make a comeback but even then MS will still face issues in Europe and Japan.