You can perfectly enjoy any of these games in limited forms if you don't pay. That is the point isn't it? We didn't use to have to pay extra beyond the money we just handed to buy the game.

Not to mention these things are gambling and should be taxed. I just don't get why governments aren't all over that. 

Theres 2 ways of fixing the situation. Either govs tax it like gambling and will at least de-incentivate it, or gamers boycott the games that do it. 

Speak with your wallets. Don't give the greedy bastards anything if you don't agree.

Though from my understanding Loot Boxes in AC: Origins wont be the disgusting kind.

My god it's just a "trading card" mode in FIFA, all other modes don't have lootboxes. And you know what? People love that mode. Don't like it? There are a gazillion other modes to play. Oh but you don't even play FIFA, you just want game modes to be taxed. According to your logic, trading card games and chocolate eggs with a toy in it should be taxed as well. Think about it for a minute and realise how bizarre your post is.

As long as people keeping paying for them they are here to stay.

Oh great, this is starting to effect single player games now? And not just cosmetically? Fuck. Who the hell is gullible enough to buy these things?

Wrong. I do play FIFA. 

And btw, i don't care. I pay full price, i don't expect there to be a P2Win freemium mode in there. It is not excusable in any way, as it's not on shadow of war or any other game you pay full price for either.

I do want gambling to be taxed cause that is the LAW, and videogame companies are taking advantage of it atm. Gambling needs regulation. Again, it's the law.

Kinder is banned in some countries you know? There is a case that can be made in physical goods, but in digital goods, just like with the casino's, it's just a number.

You may find Ultimate Team not excusable but that's kind of irrelevant seeing how it's FIFA's mode popular mode (I don't play it myself, more of a Career guy).

Your argument is really absurd to be honest. Do you think these things should be taxed for gambling as well?

Because it's exactly the same.

I'll answer again as i edited my previous post too late.

Kinder surprise is banned in some countries. A case can be made with physical goods that you still get a physical product. Digital goods are just a number beeing randomly rolled, just like in the casino.

The third example you gave is not gambling. Thats just a machine you aim at things. It depends on skill.

Oh and... :)

Blizzard didn't "ruin gaming". For most of their history they've been very hesitant to adopt annoying business models, being one of the very last non free-to-play MMO's, avoiding most DLC, and simply dropping games entirely when they feel they aren't good enough (Warcraft: Lord of the Clans and Starcraft Ghost, both games I was dying for). There's been times I've been irritated by their decisions (such as splitting Starcraft 2 into three entirely seperate, full price games for instance), but overall they've been superb compared to most giant game publishers.

Using a model that existed before them in a rather responsible manner does not make them at fault when others take the douchebag route with them. Focus your frustration on the asshats doing it wrong right now, rather than casting about for someone else to blame.

I don't mind having lootboxes in every game.... Assuming they are implemented right...

The reason why I liked and continue to like the way Overwatch has implemented lootboxes is because we get something pretty important in return and that is Free dlc for the life of the game.

You look at how far overwatch has come within a year, we got new characters, new game modes, new maps, new skin and plenty of other new stuff. And most importantly, even though it has lootboxes, getting the skin you want isn't fully locked behind them because as long as you are playing the game, you can get gold as well as free loot boxes with each level up which you can use to unlock them. And leveling up isn't unreasonable and there are also other ways to unlock them such as with every new event, you get a lootbox for free.

The other benefit of Overwatch's implementation is having no segmentation that is relevant to the gameplay. For example, if it had say $15 dlc map pack instead of lootboxes, it would mean the people who bought the map packs would get paired with other people who also did and didn't while people who don't get the map packs get paired with people who don't thus potentially increasing the time it takes to find a match. Basically, people who buy the dlcs will get paired up faster cause they have all the content but those who don't get the short end of the stick and have to wait a lot longer to find a match.

Another example is if they made dlc characters. Now you have people who have exclusive characters who have an advantage over others.

The point I am trying to make is, I personally like Overwatch's system far more than the traditional DLC system cause the system Overwatch uses has more positives in the longevity of the game than negatives imo.

But just like everything, it always depends on the implementation. Saying a game has lootboxes shouldn't mean it is automatically good or bad. The implementation of the lootbox system in the game should be the judge of that. If every game has lootboxes but it was implemented the same way Overwatch did with free dlc for life and a reasonable way to unlock the content behind the lootboxes, then imo, I don't see the problem. But unfortunatly, companies aren't doing it the way Overwatch did and thus, we are seeing the negative sides of it. Doesn't make Overwatch and it's system bad imo, but for me, just makes the games that are implementing it the terrible way bad and shall be on my skip list.