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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
numberwang said:

Milo is jewish, gay, supports Israel and maried a black man... a Nazi?

Guess people already educated you on the thing, but keep on defending these pieces of shit .

People really need to understand the importance behind using the right words with the things that fit their meaning and in alot of these cases need to read the definition before using certain words. Mainly because everyone will start to see it as a boy crying wolf. It devalues the meaning of words. Calling Milo a nazi or alt right is incorrect and anyone who calls him those words need to go back to middle school. 



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Nazism is one of the ideologies that has no grey area to me. It failed at a national level almost 75 years ago, and it's a failure today. I don't see how anyone can support such a terrible ideology.



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Azuren said:
monocle_layton said:

I never said I'm mr.tolerance. religious extremists, nazis, dictators, and some other groups don't deserve respect. Will I say we should go and shoot every person out there who is a nazi, but I don't feel bothered by outgoing nazis who may get shut down.

I just find it weird due to this not being new. The original game went against nazis before the altright thing exploded. No need to associate a fictional game to real life.

Me. You must submit a ticket to amianazi.org/ticket and take the test. Your results are shown after the test is submitted

Oh, but my question was half-serious?...

In all seriousness, my comment is meant to say that it shouldn't be handed down as a decision. Being called a nazi isn't a light threat.

 

Only someone who openly calls for the death of jews and supports the Third Reich's policies should be a called a nazi. Otherwise, they may simply be a terrible person or the accuser is just resorting to biases.

Aeolus451 said:
monocle_layton said:

I never said I'm mr.tolerance. religious extremists, nazis, dictators, and some other groups don't deserve respect. Will I say we should go and shoot every person out there who is a nazi, but I don't feel bothered by outgoing nazis who may get shut down.

I just find it weird due to this not being new. The original game went against nazis before the altright thing exploded. No need to associate a fictional game to real life.

Me. You must submit a ticket to amianazi.org/ticket and take the test. Your results are shown after the test is submitted

Nazis aren't new and them being in games isn't either but people being called nazis when they aren't is definitely a new and recent thing. I can see this from both sides and I agree with both sides on certain things.

I think the issue I have is that during the nudity debate many people talked about how games are games and shouldn't be censored. Personally, I think this game should continue the original's tradition of beating up nazis



Aeolus451 said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Guess people already educated you on the thing, but keep on defending these pieces of shit .

People really need to understand the importance behind using the right words with the things that fit their meaning and in alot of these cases need to read the definition before using certain words. Mainly because everyone will start to see it as a boy crying wolf. It devalues the meaning of words. Calling Milo a nazi or alt right is incorrect and anyone who calls him those words need to go back to middle school. 

This is especially important because when words like Nazi and fascist are used left and right, their meanings get diluted. It has gotten to the point that they only mean "I don't like you, so I'll slap this label on you to make you look bad". Also, if you try to redefine what those words means to suit your narrative, it can actually backfire on you. For instance:



I don't see anything wrong with the ad. Even if you take it as anti-Neo Nazi, it doesn't actually show violence against them happening. Just Nazis marching and the tagline "Not My America."

Anyway, I'm anti-Nazi and anti-Antifa. They're both violent assholes who have no respect for this country.



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Fededx said:
I did nazi that coming...

 

Metallox said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Nazis deserve a good old punch in the teeth thats what they deserve

From GAF:

Perhaps I'm just a little slap happy but well done you two , that is some funny shit



ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Nazis deserve a good old punch in the teeth thats what they deserve




Cute. Except for the inconvenient fact that, in America, you are literally allowed to be a racist, or a "white supremicist", or any other kind of dumb asshole, if you want to be. It is not against the law to be an asshole, nor is it against the law to be a bigot. If it was, a lot of those BLM activists would be in prison right alongside "Alt Right-ers".

The inconvenient fact, is that in America, a bunch of dumbass white dudes with tiki torches, especially ones who have a LEGAL PERMIT to hold a public rally, are legally allowed to do so, so long as they're doing so peacibly. And the fact is, if they had been left ALONE, to hold their stupid rally and go back home to play Xbox or whatever it is they do, VERY little would have come of that rally, and they would NOT have gotten the national spotlight they wanted.

The reason they GOT the spotlight, and hence even the tiny modicum of "power" they now have, is directly BECAUSE of fucking idiots like the one pictured, punching people in the face, in public, in broad daylight, just for saying something he didn't like. That's called Assault and Battery, and IS illegal. Giving a peaceful interview, that just so happens to be saying dumb shit you disagree with, is NOT illegal, nor SHOULD it be illegal. The FACT is, it is the so-called "Left", and masked cowards like these "ANTIFA" kids, who have not only escalated this whole mess, with their OWN ugly acts of violence and ugly, violent rhetoric, but it is ALSO they and people LIKE them, who have only spurred escalation and even more ugliness on the OTHER side.

I have zero doubt in my mind, that the dumbass, so-called "Nazis" in Virginia, were spurred to any violence at all, because the idiot "ANTIFA" kids who showed up just to raise hell, escalated things TO violence in the first place. That does not mean I support or condone the "Alt Right" or "White Supremicists". I myself am of "mixed" heritage, and have been "liberal" the vast majority of my life. But I DO happen to also have this nasty habit of paying attention to facts, and for thinking for myself, and not just following "group think" trends. And I'm not going to give "The Left" a pass on the stupid shit it also does, and it's OWN complicity in all of this bullshit.



The FACT is, in this day and age, there is not a SINGLE person on the fact of this Earth who is an honest to god, "Literal Nazi". Not one. And CALLING clowns like the Home Depot dudes with tiki torches, or Alt-Right kids hiding on 4Chan "Nazis", is not only a mockery of people who survived ACTUAL Nazis decades ago, it is also giving those same said clowns FAR too much credit, and thus giving them "power" they DON'T actually have. These so-called American "Nazis" you peope love to talk about, are literally less than nothing. The only reason they are even remotely a threat, is because people shining a light on them and making the nation take notice of cockroaches under the lamplight, are MAKING them a threat, by giving them the attention they were desiring in the first fucking place.

These people are cowards. They are just a bunch of angry white dudes, SOME of whom are, quite frankly, probably not even bad people. Just ignorant, easily led, and wanting to feel like they're part of something. Kinda just like the morons on the "ANTIFA" side, who don't actually believe in the "Causes" they claim to stand for, they just want to play ninja dress up, and show up to every public rally event and knock over trash cans, physically assault innocent bystanders and even news media (it's happened), and yell wonderful, progressive and enlightened slogans like "FUCK ALL WHITE PEOPLE" (even though most of them ARE white, which shows you the sheer level of their intellect).

Donald Trump is a pile of shit, no doubt. But the fact that he even BECAME the Republican nominee, let alone WON the election, is not merely a condemnation on how "all the racists and Nazis are coming out of the woodwork in America". It goes a lot deeper, and sadder than that, actually. The very fact that "We The People" allowed the election to come down to very easily the WORST choice of evils, as far as "Big Two" candidates to choose from, in US Election History? THAT is what's wrong. Would things be "less bad" with Clinton as President? Absolutely. That was never a question. But there is no award for "less bad". And a LOT of people in America were and ARE sick and tired of a choice between evils, and having such absolutely shitty, bought and sold, corrupt as fuck political candidates. It makes a lot of people feel fucking sick of it all, and hopeless.

Which is precisely this past election had a low turnout. Which in turn is precisely why Trump "won", both because a lot (on BOTH sides) who would usually vote DIDN'T, or voted third party. And in turn because a LOT of people simply didn't feel they could in good conscience vote for EITHER candidate. That is a condemnation of the entire American policial process, INCLUDING the sheep who blindly support their politcal party every election, no matter what they do, no matter how shitty a candidate they are told to vote for. The entire dialogue of "Left vs. Right" in this country, has gotten so tiresome and stale and outright idiotic...that it has led us to where we are today.

Is it a GOOD thing Trump is President? Not at all. In fact it is arguably the sickest political joke in US History, and makes a mockery of the very posiiton of President. BUT, that doesn't mean that Trump didn't win, because he is also precisely what this nation DESERVES. It got what it asked for, whether it knew it or not. Trump is not the disease. He is merely the biggest symptom, of a disease that has been festering and growing for decades.


But regardless, there are NO "Nazis" in America, or anywhere else in the world, anymore. Certainly not a bunch of middle class, pent up losers with too much time on their hands and stylish taste in torche purchases. And a game where you fight ACTUAL Nazis, because "they won WWII" in the game's fictional universe, using a slogan that ties into the current, tiresome political dialogue? That's just lame. THAT is why many people are pissed. Not because they're genuinely "offended". But because this whole ongoing diaglogue is beyond trite, counter-productive, and pointless. Just a bunch of people yelling into a void (or if you prefer, Echo Chamber), with few actually bothering to listen. Which, again, is precisely how we've gotten to where we are.

Food for thought.



Im anti-anti nazi(joke)



AngryLittleAlchemist said:

Im anti-anti nazi(joke)

I see you added the joke part in there, because I was going to say...



monocle_layton said:
Azuren said:

Oh, but my question was half-serious?...

In all seriousness, my comment is meant to say that it shouldn't be handed down as a decision. Being called a nazi isn't a light threat.

 

Only someone who openly calls for the death of jews and supports the Third Reich's policies should be a called a nazi. Otherwise, they may simply be a terrible person or the accuser is just resorting to biases.

Aeolus451 said:

Nazis aren't new and them being in games isn't either but people being called nazis when they aren't is definitely a new and recent thing. I can see this from both sides and I agree with both sides on certain things.

I think the issue I have is that during the nudity debate many people talked about how games are games and shouldn't be censored. Personally, I think this game should continue the original's tradition of beating up nazis

I agree with that. They could release a tweet saying that they're not conflating the right with nazis to kill the conversity over it. It's really simple. 

Aura7541 said:
Aeolus451 said:

People really need to understand the importance behind using the right words with the things that fit their meaning and in alot of these cases need to read the definition before using certain words. Mainly because everyone will start to see it as a boy crying wolf. It devalues the meaning of words. Calling Milo a nazi or alt right is incorrect and anyone who calls him those words need to go back to middle school. 

This is especially important because when words like Nazi and fascist are used left and right, their meanings get diluted. It has gotten to the point that they only mean "I don't like you, so I'll slap this label on you to make you look bad". Also, if you try to redefine what those words means to suit your narrative, it can actually backfire on you. For instance:

Exactly. Those words are being used way too loosely.

Good ol' Yvette.... I think that she immortalized herself as a meme about extremism. She was arrested at the berkeley thing again not that long ago.