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flashfire926 said:
Kyuu said:
Man, the amount of bullshit posts around here is starting to hurt my head.

If Sony pays every company for every goddamned game, then they wouldn't be making profits! Not when you consider the number of games that are either semi-exclusives or only shared with Xbox and PC (Because apparently, if the game isn't on Switch, but is available on PC and X1, then that still wouldn't stop the question of whether Sony moneyhatted! Not even "Okami HD" is exception )

We also have those laughable conspiracy theories about Sony paying Capcom for Monster Hunter World. Not that I'm denying that possibility but.. who was the source of this rumor again? The butthurt leaker who claimed it isn't a mainline game? Who said Monster Hunter 5 is in development for Switch, and that World is dumbed-down and westernized?.. Who said Sony was "getting desperate" and paid to specifically keep the game off Switch without telling you development actually began 4 years ago? Is that the reliable source we're supposed to believe?

Did Sony also pay Square Enix to make Dragon Quest Heroes 1&2 run like shit on the Switch?! Haven't you considered the possibility that it could take some time and resources to get a clearly ambitious Monster Hunter game running on a much weaker system? Do you think Capcom could release it simultaneously with PS4/X1 versions without massive compromises? What about the PC version... did Sony also pay Capcom to delay that?

What's more ridiculous is that those whiny haters that keep bitching about double standards can't see that the criticism is primarily directed at Phil Spencer's hypocrisy, and not necessarily the practice of securing exclusive content.

Lol this is a bullshit post.  Number one, no one ever said Sony pays for every godamn game, just for some Capcom games.  Dragon Quest builders is a square Enix games. They are also making project octopath traveller for switch. Sony paid for an ambitious monster hunter, since Capcom itself doesn't have AAA funds. Look at the production quality of Street fighter V and MvCi. Street fighter V presentation is better because Sony funded the game, and MvCi looks cheap as hell because it was Capcom themselves. 

phil condones exclusive content locked for a single console, I don't know why people keep twisting that into condoning timed exclusives. It's like some of you guys haven't even read the tweet.

MH world is still available for Xbox One and PC because Sony knows that the game being on those consoles will affect the PS4 version not a single bit cause they don't have big mh fan base,so they didn't need to pay extra to remove it from there. Only the Nintendo version will deduct sales, wether it be 3DS, switch, or even Wii U, cause in Japan Wii U was ahead of PS4 in sales for a long time. They only paid enough to get it off Nintendo consoles.

Dude, maybe you're talking from a financial standpoint but there's such thing as technology and even the greediest publishers have to take it into account.



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DonFerrari said:
flashfire926 said:

Lol this is a bullshit post.  Number one, no one ever said Sony pays for every godamn game, just for some Capcom games.  Dragon Quest builders is a square Enix games. They are also making project octopath traveller for switch. Sony paid for an ambitious monster hunter, since Capcom itself doesn't have AAA funds. Look at the production quality of Street fighter V and MvCi. Street fighter V presentation is better because Sony funded the game, and MvCi looks cheap as hell because it was Capcom themselves. 

phil condones exclusive content locked for a single console, I don't know why people keep twisting that into condoning timed exclusives. It's like some of you guys haven't even read the tweet.

MH world is still available for Xbox One and PC because Sony knows that the game being on those consoles will affect the PS4 version not a single bit cause they don't have big mh fan base,so they didn't need to pay extra to remove it from there. Only the Nintendo version will deduct sales, wether it be 3DS, switch, or even Wii U, cause in Japan Wii U was ahead of PS4 in sales for a long time. They only paid enough to get it off Nintendo consoles.

So Sony paid for the development of the game (MHW) but should let Nintendo benefit from the expenditure they made? And for some odd reason they already allowed X1 and PC to benefit from it?

Slade6alpha said:

 

Xone and PC have a non existent MH fanbase compared to PS4. Those versions being there or not doesn't affect the PS4 version one bit. No, obviously if they paid for it than it shouldn't be on switch, so Nintendo doesn't take all the benefits. I get that. I'm just trying to get across the point that Sony DID pay for it. 



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Kyuu said:
flashfire926 said:

Lol this is a bullshit post.  Number one, no one ever said Sony pays for every godamn game, just for some Capcom games.  Dragon Quest builders is a square Enix games. They are also making project octopath traveller for switch. Sony paid for an ambitious monster hunter, since Capcom itself doesn't have AAA funds. Look at the production quality of Street fighter V and MvCi. Street fighter V presentation is better because Sony funded the game, and MvCi looks cheap as hell because it was Capcom themselves. 

phil condones exclusive content locked for a single console, I don't know why people keep twisting that into condoning timed exclusives. It's like some of you guys haven't even read the tweet.

MH world is still available for Xbox One and PC because Sony knows that the game being on those consoles will affect the PS4 version not a single bit cause they don't have big mh fan base,so they didn't need to pay extra to remove it from there. Only the Nintendo version will deduct sales, wether it be 3DS, switch, or even Wii U, cause in Japan Wii U was ahead of PS4 in sales for a long time. They only paid enough to get it off Nintendo consoles.

Good job ignoring some of my key points and carrying on with the baseless theories. Not going to reply in detail but regardless of Phil's intention, his supposed hypocricy is what's getting all the negativity. So brining up that "Sony too buys exclusives!!" is not relevant. No double standards are taking place.

Good job on not reading the second paragraph.



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Slade6alpha said:
Funny reading some of these posts. As if Sony has never done this same shit. lol

Insert reply deliberately misinterpreting a simple Phil Spencer tweet.



The Fury said:
The game isn't even finished yet, it's still in early access and they don't expect to finish the game in 2017 anyway, yet it's coming out on Xbox. I hope they get a finished product.

It's going into the early access program on Xbone, it wont be a finished product.



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Both sides do it but coming from MS, it feels more desperate. Like they need to get any possible edge they can against Sony. That's just my opinion though, I hate timed exclusives from any party.



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flashfire926 said:

 Development may have started 3 years ago, but the moneyhatting could've occurred at any stage of development, it doesn't have to be the fucking start of development, people.

According to your theories Capcom is not capable of making high-budget games without the money from Sony so why are you even implying that a Switch version even existed? BTW: thank you Sony for a next-gen Monster Hunter title.



GOWTLOZ said:
flashfire926 said:

They left Xbox One and PC versions out there because they won't affect PS4 mh world sales one bit. In other words,they didn't need to spend the extra money to get it off this platforms, they just needed to get it off Nintendo. It's pretty fucking obvious if you Actually see it instead of ignoring it. Capcom is in sony's pocket, there is no denying that.

HAHAHA Sony doesn't publish and fund games to sell them on  their console, but to sell their own consoles on the strength of those games. You think MH World will sell as many PS4 while being a multiplatform game as it would as a PS4 exclusive? No, just no. By that logic they might as welll publish all their games on Xbox and PC just to keep potential Nintendo customers from buying a Switch.

No, Sony does care about Xbox probably more than Nintendo. That's where the real fight lies for them. Stop with these tin foil conspiracies, damn this is annoying. Its so obvious you're line of thoughts is wrong, how do you not see it man.

They only funded enough for the marketing deal and  for the game not to be on a non-Nintendo console, which would benefit them. It's not even published by Sony, its published by Capcom. Yes, it will sell probably a slight bit less, but it would be so small that it wouldn't matter. The Xbox version isn't even coming out in Japan for crying out loud, so Sony already got all the sales in Japan to themselves, which is the biggest mh fanbase. And as we have seen before, Japanese games just don't sell on Xbox. Just look at games like mgsV, Ffxv, or tekken 7. Xbox sales are a small tiny fraction compared to what the ps version sells. Open your eyes. 



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PEEPer0nni said:
flashfire926 said:

 Development may have started 3 years ago, but the moneyhatting could've occurred at any stage of development, it doesn't have to be the fucking start of development, people.

According to your theories Capcom is not capable of making high-budget games without the money from Sony so why are you even implying that a Switch version even existed? BTW: thank you Sony for a next-gen Monster Hunter title.

If Capcom continued with MH for the switch, the games would be more in line with MhXX than mh World. Well yeah, you could thank Sony for a more ambitious Mh that was otherwise not possible.



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Chazore said:
 

 

 

This guy gets it.


As much as MS has been pulling these kind of Stunts, Sony has also been guilty of pulling moneyhats, keeping games off of other platforms, neither side is a saint nor innocent, but it is amusing to see the echo chamber coming together within this thread to rag on MS for this recent action, yet not whenever Sony has done it.

We are all aware that Sony have done this before.

Thing is, have you seen Shuhei Yoshida, Andrew House or any other Playstation suit taking shots at Microsoft for moneyhatting like Phil Spencer did not so long ago?

If so, you are free to give us a link.