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Miyamotoo on 02 October 2017
Nuvendil said:

Highly doubt it. The PS4 jump over the PS3 disappointed initially and wasn't fully appreciated for years. The Pro also disappointed many. Contrary to the current rhetoric, generations need to get *longer* NOT shorter.

I personally anticipate the PS5 in 2021. 2020 at the absolute earliest.   I don't think Sony is concerned with the next Xbox because Microsoft's posturing leaves considerable doubt there will even BE another Xbox after the One line.

Sony isn't going to rush out the gate to get the drop on Xbox. No sense in taking the risk.

Uf, 2020/2021 earliest for PS5!? That's actually latest, in 2021. PS4 will be alredy 8 years old. With modern/tech architecture, new iterations and new generations are of consoles can be made much closer, where in this case there would be backward compatibility, they could easily release PS5 where plays PS4 games and where you could even play PS5 games on PS4.

My best bet is holiday 2019. or 2020. for PS5.



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GribbleGrunger on 02 October 2017
Miyamotoo said:

I dont see why would they release PS5 in early 2019. Holiday 2019. is definitely posible.

Because the longer they leave it, the less slighted XB fans will feel, handing back a little of that wiggle room to MS. Sony will want to do it as soon as they dare.



 

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AlfredoTurkey on 02 October 2017

Let's just hope PS5 is a monster and a true next-gen beast. No more weak sauce, mid-gen non-sense like the PS4 Pro and Xbox X.



Medisti on 02 October 2017

If the X and Switch don't give enough competition and they're still selling 17 million units a year, they'll ride the generation out longer. If the X or Switch or both give enough competition, they'll roll out the new hardware. They'll have no reason to shift if they're still not in the harvest phase yet.



Nuvendil on 02 October 2017
GribbleGrunger said:
Nuvendil said:

Highly doubt it. The PS4 jump over the PS3 disappointed initially and wasn't fully appreciated for years. The Pro also disappointed many. Contrary to the current rhetoric, generations need to get *longer* NOT shorter.

I personally anticipate the PS5 in 2021. 2020 at the absolute earliest.   I don't think Sony is concerned with the next Xbox because Microsoft's posturing leaves considerable doubt there will even BE another Xbox after the One line.

Sony isn't going to rush out the gate to get the drop on Xbox. No sense in taking the risk.

I see no risk here. As long as it's backward compatible and ALL of the earlier game are also available for the PS4 (with less bells and whistles), then no one is going to feel that slighted. With a 6 months to a year lead over the XB4, Sony can afford to simply allow cross gen games to push early sales and with games like TLOU2, which I think will definitely be a launch title, they can ease into a substantial lead.

It's not about feeling slighted.  It's about feeling the thing isn't worth buying.  Diminsing returns has eroded the impact of generational leaps.  They need to become more significant for leaps to continue to justify purchase.  4k/60fps isn't enough, those kinds of upgrades have drawn a resounding "meh" from the average consumer with regards to the Pro and X.  There needs to be a real, serious leap or the response will be the same.  This idea jumps can get shorter or stay the same lenght WITH midgen upgrades in between is, imo, a massive mistake.  IMO, the Pro and X lock this gen in to run longer.  2020 is the earliest.  2021 just as likely.  I could even see 2022 if the sales of the PS4 continue to be red hot.  

Which is another thing, why cut the legs out from under the 4 just 6 years in when the sales right now are looking very, very strong and look to stay that way for a long while.  It just doesn't make any sense.  And again, Xbox is no position to rush as you said and may not even be a thing in gen 9.  Rushing out the door brings no benefits, only risk.



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GribbleGrunger on 02 October 2017
twintail said:
GribbleGrunger said:

I also think, as Angry has touched upon above, that TLOU2 will be a launch title for the PS5. Also available on the current gen too of course. 

Maybe. I dont think so.

I think Sony is going PS5 exclusive titles only for launch. If PS4 games are forward compatible, then a PS5 TLOU on launch, with PS4 version as well, is pretty pointless.

You will see a PS4 release, then PS5 annoucement with with a PS5 specific re-release (goty edition that wont get a PS4 release)

You could be right, I can't deny that, but I really don't see a risk here. Just look at Nintendo with Breath of the Wild for instance. Nintendo has actually paved the way here for the sort of environment Sony would benefit from. I wouldn't buy the PS5 straight away but I would happily buy TLOU2 for my PS4, and no doubt Sony will make the upgrade free to download for those who eventually get a PS5.



 

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Mr Puggsly on 02 October 2017
GribbleGrunger said:
Peh said:
It's not Sony who offers the 4k 60fps. It's still the game developer how he utilizes the resources.

Yep. Sony are promoting the Pro as a mid gen upgrade. It's MS that are leaning on the 4K/60fps promotions. That's my point. Sony can afford to gain a 1 year lead if they wish.

I have a theory that X1X is a high end 8th gen console right now ($499 at launch), but it has the potential to be a budget 9th gen console a few years from now($249-299 in 2019).

I think we can assume Sony is gonna aim for the magic price point of $399 and that limits the potential of hardware. I mean X1X is 4 year later, almost double the price of the X1S, so I'm not conivinced PS5 is going to be mega powerful in 2019.

Hence, MS may have the 9th gen advantage already if X1X is treated as 9th gen hardware because it may be able to handle virtually any PS5 game. Unless PS5 has a very powerful CPU, which is unlikely given consoles tend to push GPU.



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GribbleGrunger on 02 October 2017
Nuvendil said:
GribbleGrunger said:

I see no risk here. As long as it's backward compatible and ALL of the earlier game are also available for the PS4 (with less bells and whistles), then no one is going to feel that slighted. With a 6 months to a year lead over the XB4, Sony can afford to simply allow cross gen games to push early sales and with games like TLOU2, which I think will definitely be a launch title, they can ease into a substantial lead.

It's not about feeling slighted.  It's about feeling the thing isn't worth buying.  Diminsing returns has eroded the impact of generational leaps.  They need to become more significant for leaps to continue to justify purchase.  4k/60fps isn't enough, those kinds of upgrades have drawn a resounding "meh" from the average consumer with regards to the Pro and X.  There needs to be a real, serious leap or the response will be the same.  This idea jumps can get shorter or stay the same lenght WITH midgen upgrades in between is, imo, a massive mistake.  IMO, the Pro and X lock this gen in to run longer.  2020 is the earliest.  2021 just as likely.  I could even see 2022 if the sales of the PS4 continue to be red hot.  

Which is another thing, why cut the legs out from under the 4 just 6 years in when the sales right now are looking very, very strong and look to stay that way for a long while.  It just doesn't make any sense.  And again, Xbox is no position to rush as you said and may not even be a thing in gen 9.  Rushing out the door brings no benefits, only risk.

It wouldn't be cutting the legs off the PS4 because it would have the same games, albeit without the bells and whistles. Like I said, Sony could easily sit on the PS5 exclusive games until MS decide to release the XB4. It's about the software sales really and the console that sells the most gets the most software support (sorry Spencer), so therefore sales will follow for BOTH the PS4 and the PS5. With BC/FC being the main objective, it does not matter which console those exclusives are delivered on.



 

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GribbleGrunger on 02 October 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Yep. Sony are promoting the Pro as a mid gen upgrade. It's MS that are leaning on the 4K/60fps promotions. That's my point. Sony can afford to gain a 1 year lead if they wish.

I have a theory that X1X is a high end 8th gen console right now ($499 at launch), but it has the potential to be a budget 9th gen console a few years from now($249-299 in 2019).

I think we can assume Sony is gonna aim for the magic price point of $399 and that limits the potential of hardware. I mean X1X is 4 year later, almost double the price of the X1S, so I'm not conivinced PS5 is going to be mega powerful in 2019.

Hence, MS may have the 9th gen advantage already if X1X is treated as 9th gen hardware because it may be able to handle virtually any PS5 game. Unless PS5 has a very powerful CPU, which is unlikely given consoles tend to push GPU.

That is a VERY good point. We can't dismiss the Pro though. That will also offer a cheaper option (and cheaper than the X1X) to bridge that financial gap. 



 

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AngryLittleAlchemist on 02 October 2017

The reason I just don't think this will happen is that the PS4 is arguably one of the most consistent consoles when it comes to sales. In it's 3rd year it did like 18 mil, this year it will probably do 20 mil total, and next year it could do 16-18 mil with God of War 4, Days Gone, Red Dead Redemption 2, Detroit Become Human, and Spiderman.

In 2019 we'll have The Last of Us 2 and Death Stranding .... it will probably do at least 10m that year. I just don't see it being replaced till late 2019 at the earliest. There's just no point in launching that early.