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Lawlight on 03 October 2017
gatito said:
If you feel like you need to own a killing machine for any reason you're scum and a monster.

This is such nonsense. If I lived in an unsafe country where people could break into my home with a gun, I'd own one too.



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FIT_Gamer on 03 October 2017
gatito said:
If you feel like you need to own a killing machine for any reason you're scum and a monster.

I could kill you with a spoon...



VGPolyglot on 03 October 2017
gatito said:
If you feel like you need to own a killing machine for any reason you're scum and a monster.

So, if you live in a very dangerous neighborhood and want to protect yourself, you're scum and a monster?



Superman4 on 03 October 2017
SpokenTruth said:
Superman4 said:

I was refering to Hillarys statement on banning silencers as well as other Democrats shitting from their mouths today. Im not against mentally ill peope not being able to possess guns however I do want to make sure that people arent just being labeled that way unjustly. I am for Background checks as well as photo ID. Im not for more money in tax for no reason. I am also for photo ID for voting as well. 

No.  No, you were not.  You claimed the Democrats had a bill on the House floor to ban silencers.  Don't lie when you get caught trying to deny what you posted.

Not lying at all and wasnt "caught" trying to deny anything. Its not my fault you didnt understand what I was saying. Hillarys statement was on banning silencers, she is accusing the Republicans of making it easier to get them and is using it to get the bill currently up to go in her favor.



Superman4 on 03 October 2017
sethnintendo said:
sc94597 said:

Nope. Only the last two are assault rifles. The first is a semi-automatic rifle. 

https://www.britannica.com/technology/assault-rifle

"Assault rifle, military firearm that is chambered for ammunition of reduced size or propellant charge and that has the capacity to switch between semiautomatic and fully automatic fire."

You can turn semi auto into fully.  Also, I don't like semi automatics.  You can fire a semi pretty damn fast (fires just as fast as you pull the trigger).  I have a feeling you would feel less of a man with a bolt action rifle.

So you dont like revolvers? 



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Superman4 on 03 October 2017
sethnintendo said:
Lawlight said:

True but how many of that is due to gang activity? I think that skews the data a lot.

So we should just legalize drugs and put the gangs out of business which would lead to less violence.

Yes, we should. 



S.Peelman on 03 October 2017

I'm on a holiday in the US right now, touring the western part for a couple of weeks. Was in Las Vegas last week, it's terrible for sure, such a madman to commit such a useless tragedy.



konnichiwa on 03 October 2017
sundin13 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Well this is obviously antithetical to why we have gun freedoms.

But your response is out of context to what I was saying. We don't have gun freedoms for acts like this, the vast majority have guns for self defense.

Gun crimes are actually down even as ownership increases, but when something like this happens all the progress in a better direction is ignored.

In the US, percent of gun-owning households has actually been dropping since the 70's alongside the fall in violent crimes, so the bold isn't exactly true. 



Yeah just posting this graph to make your point more clear.






konnichiwa on 03 October 2017
SpokenTruth said:
konnichiwa said:



Yeah just posting this graph to make your point more clear.

Thought you'd find this relevant.

 

Honestly the last one I don't care that much about =p.  (and am not surprised).






Soundwave on 03 October 2017
Lawlight said:
Soundwave said:

Wasn't a Muslim or Mexican? Guess nothing can be done then, just one of those darn "lone wolfs" (gee schucks). If it was a Mexican, the Wall would be 20 feet taller, calls for mass deportations, and crack downs, Trump would have a seizure twittering if it was a Muslim, and all people of those groups would be demonized fifty ways to Tuesday.

When Sandy Hook came and went, and no one did anything after school kids were gunned down, nothing was ever going to change.

NRA owns politicians via payoffs, so basically nothing will be ever done, even when there is broad consensus among Democrats and even Republican voters on several common sense gun restrictions (like not allowing mentally ill people to gain access to guns among several other restrictions). Just gotta get used to it happening every 6-18 months.

What are you rambling on about? We still don't know the motive behind this. But I bet you didn't go and such a rant after the Orlando shooting ot am I incorrect?

I'm "rambling on" about the hypocrisy in how these situations are dealt with based on who the shooter is. 

Even in case of Orlando, IMO there are strong signs that was a "lone nut" shooter, dude visited a gay bar for several years, had dating profiles on gay websites, but is also an ISIS member? More likely he wanted to go on a shooting spree and just pinned the whole thing on being an religious extremist. 

But the difference is an entire group is indicted/judged on the actions of one person in those situations, but if it's a "crazy lone white guy" ... it's a completely different reaction especially from the political class in this country. "Nothing can be done, nothing to see here folkes, just send your prayers" blah, blah, blah.