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shoichi on 29 September 2017

Even though Nintendo seems to be trying very hard to get more shipments to stores, according to BrickSeek some stores like Target, Best Buy, etc. are getting over 100 units per brick-in-mortar location when they got only around half or even a quarter of that shipment amount for the NES last year. Likely 50-75% will end up being bought from scalpers still trying to make some cash on it.

 

I preordered and been playing it since yesterday (Best Buy delivered early and seems to do that sometimes since I even got my Switch a week early...) so good luck to the ones still in the hunt.



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Vinther1991 on 29 September 2017

I also had a lot of costumers asking for the SNES today. Send them all away, told them the SNES was discontinued years ago



Pemalite on 29 September 2017
RolStoppable said:
Darc Requiem said:

IIRC they don't make money on the Mini. It costs them like $77 to make. Retailers just stock for the increased foot traffic.

Yup, the Mini consoles aren't profit-driven products. Their main purpose is to raise brand awareness for Nintendo consoles and IPs.

From a business perspective, you really have to wonder why Nintendo isn't going for both profits and brand awareness when they clearly can have both with these Mini consoles. My conclusion is that their typical bias against their own classic consoles and games is at work here, it prevents them from recognizing the true value of those products.

You are kidding yourself if you think Nintendo isn't profiting from these.
You can buy an Android TV box with superior specifications for a fraction of the price... And those Android boxes still make a profit.




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Pemalite on 29 September 2017
RolStoppable said:
Pemalite said:

You are kidding yourself if you think Nintendo isn't profiting from these.
You can buy an Android TV box with superior specifications for a fraction of the price... And those Android boxes still make a profit.

That's not the point. The point is that Nintendo could charge so much more for their Mini consoles. They are leaving a lot of money on the table again.

They can't price it like a normal console though, there are no new experiences, only old ones.
Push it up much higher and it starts competing with the 2DS price point.



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NintendoPie on 29 September 2017
Pemalite said:

They can't price it like a normal console though, there are no new experiences, only old ones.
Push it up much higher and it starts competing with the 2DS price point.

The 2DS doesn't have nostalgia. People pay for nostalgia, and Nintendo isn't seeing that.



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Soundwave on 30 September 2017

The first shipment was always going to be gone because of the precedent set by the NES Classic. You have scalpers who were out in full force and you had scared consumers worried they wouldn't get one like the NES Classic.

If Nintendo keeps steady shipments coming, then there shouldn't be as much of a problem. That said the demand for this thing likely outpaces every system this holiday -- Switch included.

I think they should consider having full size retro consoles at some point in the future too.



Pemalite on 30 September 2017
NintendoPie said:
Pemalite said:

They can't price it like a normal console though, there are no new experiences, only old ones.
Push it up much higher and it starts competing with the 2DS price point.

The 2DS doesn't have nostalgia. People pay for nostalgia, and Nintendo isn't seeing that.

Doesn't matter.

Besides, the 2DS does have nostalgia thanks to DS, re-releases, being an old device and it's virtual store.

Plus if Nostalgia was all that was needed the Atari and Genesis flashbacks would be selling like crazy as well.



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sethnintendo on 30 September 2017
Darc Requiem said:
RolStoppable said:

The SNES Mini is so cheap because NIntendo has no clue. The people who manage to get one pay next to nothing for it.

If Nintendo had gotten their act together, the SNES Mini in this configuration would be $149, not $79. What Nintendo is doing is pretty much the equivalent of a pub serving the best beer in town and selling their beer at half the price of all competition. Of course that drives up demand to a ridiculous level and scalpers will be able to get $150 for each SNES Mini, because that's what most people would have been willing to pay anyway.

IIRC they don't make money on the Mini. It costs them like $77 to make. Retailers just stock for the increased foot traffic.

So are you just pulling numbers out of your ass or do you have an actual article to back your claim up?  I highly doubt these units cost more than $50 for the licenses of 3rd party games, manufacture and shipping of the units.



Darc Requiem on 30 September 2017
sethnintendo said:
Darc Requiem said:

IIRC they don't make money on the Mini. It costs them like $77 to make. Retailers just stock for the increased foot traffic.

So are you just pulling numbers out of your ass or do you have an actual article to back your claim up?  I highly doubt these units cost more than $50 for the licenses of 3rd party games, manufacture and shipping of the units.

I heard it on Spawn Wave's live stream. He's able to get the distributor cost of items. The distributor cost of the SNES Classic was $77, he was remarking that with shipping retailers don't make money SNES Classic, they just stock becuase it will get people into their stores. It gives them a chance to sell them something else.



numberwang on 30 September 2017
RolStoppable said:
Pemalite said:

You are kidding yourself if you think Nintendo isn't profiting from these.
You can buy an Android TV box with superior specifications for a fraction of the price... And those Android boxes still make a profit.

That's not the point. The point is that Nintendo could charge so much more for their Mini consoles. They are leaving a lot of money on the table again.