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Is OLED worth the premium price

100% yes 43 67.19%
 
Not that big a difference... 21 32.81%
 
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Hynad on 22 September 2017

There really isn't anything better than OLED when it comes to picture quality.

But they're still too expensive right now, IMO.



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sergiodaly on 22 September 2017

If you are going to use mainly 1080p signal, the sony upscale is the best, and HDR on LCD is better than OLED. I would go with a sony LCD for now in that price range. But if you can wait, next year oled could have better price and better brightness for HDR and like Turkish said, better specs that are important for gamers...

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rolltide101x on 22 September 2017

OLED screens are pretty dim as of now. Honestly I would wait for it to mature a bit more. Contrast is the biggest advantage OLED has as most other tvs can only go to a "very dark grey" instead of black because of the backlight.


Unless you have a ton of money I would wait (if you are gaming in a bright room an OLED can not be recommended at all as they are a good bit duller than their LED/LCD counterparts



SvennoJ on 22 September 2017
manuel said:
SvennoJ said:

Do they include sales tax and environmental fee in the prices in Japan? There's another 13% on top of those prices here.
Weird that Sony tvs are more expensive in Japan than in Canada.

 

That depends on the shop. But most advertise prices without tax so it looks cheaper.

Tax here is 8%, but still Sony products are more expensive in Japan than in Canada and the USA. Bummer.

http://kakaku.com/kaden/lcd-tv/itemlist.aspx?pdf_se=8&pdf_Spec301=52-60&pdf_so=p1

The cheapest 55 incher from Sony on the price comparison site kakaku.com (most-used in Japan) is 16800 Yen (with tax), or about 1850 CAD, which would be about 1635 CAD when taking off 13% tax.

Hmm, they use different model numbers in Japan. The cheapest here is the KD55X720E for CAD 1100, 1288 incl tax and fees, 117,288 yen. Cheaper indeed, yet it's a very bare bones 8 bit tv, no wide color gamut, poor HDR, bad black level and uniformity. No clue what that X8500D is like.



Rain2 on 22 September 2017
SvennoJ said:

We sit at about 10-11 ft from the tv. Bigger would definitely be better. However most of the content we watch on it is still 720p/1080i cable tv. Compression artifacts are already very noticeable on the 52" one. But for 1080p gaming it's a bit on the small side. Pretty ridiculous tv is still stuck at 6-7 mbps mpeg-2 1080i while consoles are moving on to 4k :/

I kInda have the feeling it's still too early to jump to 4K, yet it's too late to upgrade to better 1080p as all the 1080p plasmas have vanished.

It depends on how sensitive you are to that kind of thing I guess. The TV I was talking about is 4K and I don’t notice any artifacts. I know some people notice that type of thing moreso than others tho. Mine is also an LG & according to reviews, Sony TV’s tend to have superior upscaling so it should be alright. I can’t say from experience on that.

All I know is, I truly believe the size is more important for everything but maybe movies. Watching a movie with the lights off will showcase the OLED more due to true blacks & fantastic color. For watching TV during the day and playing games however, the size difference will be the more noticeable upgrade. 



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Johnw1104 on 22 September 2017
SvennoJ said:
Johnw1104 said:

I'm still of the opinion that, unless you simply have heaps of money to burn, we're better off being patient for another year or two as the price of OLED screens will continue to drop rather drastically.

I'm more than happy with the 4k LED I picked up last year and, while the OLED screens looked a little nicer when I was shopping, the difference was (in my opinion) often barely noticeable. For the moment, they're the best TVs on the market but the additional cost doesn't seem worth it yet unless you're a bachelor with no financial worries lol

Yup, kinda have the same feeling. 9 years ago I spend 4500 on a top of the line 1080p tv, the one that's now breaking down. However that was before kids, college funds, dentist bills and living in a much smaller house.

On the other hand, black level is king while watching movies. That gray haze instead of black always bugs me in dark scenes.

Yeah, the differences were more obvious in the store with the footage that is designed to show the improvements, but most of the time it's only minor.

For context, I'm actually someone who does spend money on needlessly expensive electronics, including the recent Titan X (so as to run 4K and VR smoothly) and a gaming laptop, and even I find the OLED screen to be too much money for what is only a slightly enhanced experience. It should be cheaper in the near future, so I think patience is best.

I might recommend looking into input lag ahead of time as well for games, that's what lead me to my Samsung 4K as it was very low on the list.



SvennoJ on 22 September 2017
Rain2 said:
SvennoJ said:

We sit at about 10-11 ft from the tv. Bigger would definitely be better. However most of the content we watch on it is still 720p/1080i cable tv. Compression artifacts are already very noticeable on the 52" one. But for 1080p gaming it's a bit on the small side. Pretty ridiculous tv is still stuck at 6-7 mbps mpeg-2 1080i while consoles are moving on to 4k :/

I kInda have the feeling it's still too early to jump to 4K, yet it's too late to upgrade to better 1080p as all the 1080p plasmas have vanished.

It depends on how sensitive you are to that kind of thing I guess. The TV I was talking about is 4K and I don’t notice any artifacts. I know some people notice that type of thing moreso than others tho. Mine is also an LG & according to reviews, Sony TV’s tend to have superior upscaling so it should be alright. I can’t say from experience on that.

All I know is, I truly believe the size is more important for everything but maybe movies. Watching a movie with the lights off will showcase the OLED more due to true blacks & fantastic color. For watching TV during the day and playing games however, the size difference will be the more noticeable upgrade. 

The compression artifacts are not from the tv, it's from the poor HD cable service we have here. Not much the tv can do about. To give an extreme example, low bandwidth mpeg-2 can't handle strobe lights / confetti at all. This is what the AGT finale looked like here when the winner gets announced:

This is called HD cable  :)

This is an over exposed photo of what's wrong with it currently, you can see the repetitive digital noise

Adding some nice texture to 'HD' cable, yet definitely don't want to watch blu-ray on that anymore.

I'm used to watching movies on my 1080p projector so also for those bigger is better. 65" OLED might get me to ditch the projector for movie watching. Projectors are a lot cheaper though.

Johnw1104 said:
SvennoJ said:

Yup, kinda have the same feeling. 9 years ago I spend 4500 on a top of the line 1080p tv, the one that's now breaking down. However that was before kids, college funds, dentist bills and living in a much smaller house.

On the other hand, black level is king while watching movies. That gray haze instead of black always bugs me in dark scenes.

Yeah, the differences were more obvious in the store with the footage that is designed to show the improvements, but most of the time it's only minor.

For context, I'm actually someone who does spend money on needlessly expensive electronics, including the recent Titan X (so as to run 4K and VR smoothly) and a gaming laptop, and even I find the OLED screen to be too much money for what is only a slightly enhanced experience. It should be cheaper in the near future, so I think patience is best.

I might recommend looking into input lag ahead of time as well for games, that's what lead me to my Samsung 4K as it was very low on the list.

Next to VR I have been playing Infinifactory through ps4 remote play on my laptop with 100ms input lag while watching tv. My laptop still runs that a lot more smoothly than the Steam version :/ I'm not too worried about input lag for 2D gaming.

Since my gaming is mostly psvr I guess I'll wait for a good price to come up. As long as the tv doesn't get worse it's still watchable. I guess you do change over time, 10 years ago I would have bought the Z9D no problem. Heck when plasma just came out I was seriously considering to buy one for 20k instead of making a downpayment on a house... I made the better choice luckily :) The most expesive single item I've bought was the Yamaha DSP AX1, flagship receiver for 7000 euros at the time. Guess what it's worth now sitting in the basement lol. I also still have the first consumer mini DV camera JVC GR-DV1. It turns out digital movies on tape degrade a lot faster than s-vhs doh!

It was fun buying every new thing as soon as it came out, early pc dvd drive with Tex Murphy Overseer for example, yet I guess having responsibilities taught me about the value of money lol. I used to spend $500 a month on Laserdiscs, now I;m looking at planet earth 2 CAD 54 for 4K, CAD 24 for blu-ray, eh nvm the 4k. Anyway if you already find OLED too much for value, I'm sure I'll get buyer's remorse after spending 4k on one.