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tbone51 on 26 September 2017

couchmonkey said:
Why argue so much about what "kind" of console the Switch is?

That arguement ended awhile ago

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Kerotan on 26 September 2017

the_dengle said:

Kerotan said:

It's one aspect of the market that can be analysised. Not every comparison has to revolve around revenue or profits. It's just a straightforward comparison looking at the actual number of consoles sold vs their predecessors.

Again I agree that revenue and software is more important.

@Rol pays for itself and then some.

If it’s just about hardware isolated from all other aspects of the company, why not count NES and SNES Classic sales? Two new home consoles from Nintendo sold alongside the Switch.

You keep saying "what about this" or "what about that" but once again I agree with you. Of course we can compare previous generations. That's what we do on Vgchartz. Compare and analyse sales.

You can absolutely compare Switch to Wii + Ds

Or ps4 vs ps2

Or ps4 vs ps1

Or ps4 + vita vs ps2

All valid and different comparisons for different reasons.

I'm most interested in ps4 vs PS3 personally and switch vs Wii U + 3DS because they are the most recent. But again I agree, we can compare to previous generations if you want.

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I'm also interested in 360 vs xb1 but we don't get official numbers from MS so there's less talk about that

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StarDoor on 26 September 2017

Kerotan said:

the_dengle said:

If it’s just about hardware isolated from all other aspects of the company, why not count NES and SNES Classic sales? Two new home consoles from Nintendo sold alongside the Switch.

You keep saying "what about this" or "what about that" but once again I agree with you. Of course we can compare previous generations. That's what we do on Vgchartz. Compare and analyse sales.

You can absolutely compare Switch to Wii + Ds

Or ps4 vs ps2

Or ps4 vs ps1

Or ps4 + vita vs ps2

All valid and different comparisons for different reasons.

I'm most interested in ps4 vs PS3 personally and switch vs Wii U + 3DS because they are the most recent. But again I agree, we can compare to previous generations if you want.

Edit:

I'm also interested in 360 vs xb1 but we don't get official numbers from MS so there's less talk about that

First of all, why would PS4 + Vita versus PS2 be a valid comparison?

Secondly, do you think that if Sony had released a hybrid during the seventh generation instead of PSP and PS3, it would have sold 168 million worldwide? Or if Nintendo released a hybrid instead of DS and Wii, it would have sold 255 million worldwide?

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Green098 on 26 September 2017

Kerotan said:

RolStoppable said:

Nintendo's mobile games are a form of marketing.

A form of marketing and revenue. In their own right their mobile ventures can be very profitable.

I agree. I'm all for Nintendo taking advantage of the mobile market to fund the development of some... lets say more premium experiences, or to put it more harshly; actual games. Fire Emblem Heroes for example did pretty well revenue wise for a pretty basic game. Which could then allow Nintendo to take the risk of a higher budget for the Fire Emblem Switch title.

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the_dengle on 26 September 2017

You don’t have to tell me what you are “most interested in.” It’s fully apparent from your posts.

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Kerotan on 26 September 2017

StarDoor said:

Kerotan said:

You keep saying "what about this" or "what about that" but once again I agree with you. Of course we can compare previous generations. That's what we do on Vgchartz. Compare and analyse sales.

You can absolutely compare Switch to Wii + Ds

Or ps4 vs ps2

Or ps4 vs ps1

Or ps4 + vita vs ps2

All valid and different comparisons for different reasons.

I'm most interested in ps4 vs PS3 personally and switch vs Wii U + 3DS because they are the most recent. But again I agree, we can compare to previous generations if you want.

Edit:

I'm also interested in 360 vs xb1 but we don't get official numbers from MS so there's less talk about that

First of all, why would PS4 + Vita versus PS2 be a valid comparison?

Secondly, do you think that if Sony had released a hybrid during the seventh generation instead of PSP and PS3, it would have sold 168 million worldwide? Or if Nintendo released a hybrid instead of DS and Wii, it would have sold 255 million worldwide?

If Sony launched a ps3 that was a hybrid and cost $400 at launch with similar power to the 360 I'd actually think they could have. It's sales would have been insane with the combined userbase and coming off the ps2.

And it would have retained many of the Playstation ps2 exclusives that xbox either nabbed or got a version of. It would have maintained more aswell as it lost franchises like dragon quest and monster hunter to Nintendo.

Dengle was saying why just compare to last gen and I agreed. The gen before it was just the ps2 for Sony so if you were comparing total consoles sold per gen the comparison would be vita + ps4 vs ps2.

cycycychris said:

I hope all you guys get this fight out of you right now in this thread. these petty console war fueled arguments do nothing but ruin the COMG and Media Create threads. They do nothing but drive the community apart and drive new members away. Does it really matter that much to you all that it must be a total war about what the Switch gets compared too. If it bother other member so much that you do one thing, maybe its just time to drop it, hell make your own thread about it if you choose, probably the best solution. But Is it really worth the shit that's been done to this thread.

I'd like to agree but considering these threads are more popular now then ever before that's actually false.

the_dengle said:
You don’t have to tell me what you are “most interested in.” It’s fully apparent from your posts.

And you don't have to keep falsely assuming things about me. That's why I feel the need to spell it out for it so you'll stop jumping to conclusions.