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"Even the PS2 could not match that in only 5 years. The DS and Wii didn't either."

Let me introduce you to the phrase "theres a first time for everything."



niceguygameplayer said:

I never hated on you or cussed at you, like you have done me. I never personally attack anyone, including you. I even said I don't think you should be banned for having your opinion in a response to another post. I wouldn't have you banned, but you would have me banned. That is why I'm a nice guy and others are not. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make that person bad and worthy of being banned. And as for me being repetitive, that is no reason to be banned either. 

I never cussed you out either - saying you make low quality arguments or threads using cuss words is not "cussing you out". I never said you were shit(just an example) but that your activity on this site can be described in quite a few ways including shitty. In fact, I even said in your last thread you are a cool dude when you aren't shitting on Nintendo. We could use even more anime fans on VGChartz, and more importantly gamers.

Maybe if the offendies take on a situation could actually stop someone from being banned, I would have cooled my jets. But you saying that I shouldn't be banned won't change the fact that I will be banned. Because this is not "trolling" the mods will not grant leeway most likely, even though this has the same exact effect that trolling would have. You act like your a nice guy but why would a nice guy just shit on a company 24/7? I mean honestly, what is "nice" about that? You aren't a nice person and you don't get the sympathy flute just because you aren't as direct. In fact that's what is most infuriating, you'll be let off because you techically didn't say anything wrong. Posts like these are just as bad as baiting. 

And the thing is if this was your first or second thread it wouldn't be an issue. But it's like your fourth. At this point it doesn't matter if it's intentional because the self awareness is zero. I will look like the dick and maybe I am one. But compare this to my post on your last thread. People have tried to reason with you and you can't be reasoned with. You make very infuriating posts and I don't think they should be banned because they hold a different opinion, I think they should be banned because they are equivalent in action to unintentional bait.  I seriously don't get how you didn't get banned for the DOOM thread because calling an entire demographic kiddie would definitely count as inflammatory in my books. 



StarDoor said:
niceguygameplayer said:

http://n4g.com/news/2102650/market-analyst-firm-expects-nintendo-to-sell-130-million-switches-by-2022

1.) I would understand if this was an April first joke, but cmon. Even the PS2 could not match that in only 5 years. The DS and Wii didn't either. Does this analyst firm have weed smoking parties? Even Pachter would not say such ridiculousness. 

2.) After demand is met, the games start winding down (I don't think Nintendo can possibly keep up this  first party release schedule for a second or third year), the novelty of the Switch wears off, and Sony and other companies copy the Switch formula, I think Switch sales will likely not even match PS4. PS5 will come and crush it in a couple of years, most likely. It may have switch like features. Or Sony may release a portable PS4 type of system that can be "docked" like the Switch. It would have to be digital download only. 

3.) I think the best idea to combat Switch is to make a unique system besides the PS5 or a portable PS4. PSP2 with docking would be awesome! As powerful as PS4 but with unique cartridge games just for the system. PS4 digital games could be downloaded on it for portable play. However, I don't think Sony has to copy Switch at all. The PS4 will continue to do great and when PS5 comes along, it will make Switch look archaic. 

I think Switch will do very well for two to three years and then taper off. Will it be a large success? I think it will. I think 75 million to 100 lifetime. 130 million in 5 years. Please. 

Okay, I've finally stopped laughing, so now I can reply.

1.) The end of 2022 is closer to six years, and DS did match that. Also, Pachter is infamous for wildly underestimating Nintendo. For reference, he thought that Switch would sell 5 million total throughout the entirety of 2017.

2.) Nintendo had to split development between two platforms before, but now they can focus solely on Switch. It's obvious that the frequency of first-party games will increase when compared to previous consoles. Also, Sony has already tried to take over Nintendo's share of the handheld market, and they failed miserably. What makes you think that a digital-only copycat device would slow down Switch at all?

3.) PSP2 already happened, and it was called Vita. Also, you literally just said in the previous paragraph that Switch sales will decline once Sony copies the Switch formula, but now you're saying that they don't have to copy it? Make up your mind.

4.) Almost no one here is expecting 130 million by the end of 2022, and I don't expect that either. But it's not outside the realm of possibility, since that would still put it behind DS sales over the same period.

Where did you get your information that DS was that successful in 5 years? My mind is sound. I meant that Sony could copy Switch for maximum success, but they don't need to to stop Switch from reaching 130 million. Vita was not a PSP2. Sony did not back it up like PSP. And PSP was very successful at over 80 million sold! Just because Sony did not beat DS doesn't mean that another try would be unsuccessful. 



AngryLittleAlchemist said:
niceguygameplayer said:

I never hated on you or cussed at you, like you have done me. I never personally attack anyone, including you. I even said I don't think you should be banned for having your opinion in a response to another post. I wouldn't have you banned, but you would have me banned. That is why I'm a nice guy and others are not. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make that person bad and worthy of being banned. And as for me being repetitive, that is no reason to be banned either. 

I never cussed you out either - saying you make low quality arguments or threads using cuss words is not "cussing you out". I never said you were shit(just an example) but that your activity on this site can be described in quite a few ways including shitty. In fact, I even said in your last thread you are a cool dude when you aren't shitting on Nintendo.

Maybe if the offendies take on a situation could actually stop someone from being banned, I would have cooled my jets. But you saying that I shouldn't be banned won't change the fact that I will be banned. Because this is not "trolling" the mods will not grant leeway most likely, even though this has the same exact effect that trolling would have. You act like your a nice guy but why would a nice guy just shit on a company 24/7? I mean honestly, what is "nice" about that? You aren't a nice person and you don't get the sympathy flute just because you aren't as direct. In fact that's what is most infuriating, you'll be let off because you techically didn't say anything wrong. Posts like these are just as bad as baiting. 

And the thing is if this was your first or second thread it wouldn't be an issue. But it's like your fourth. At this point it doesn't matter if it's intentional because the self awareness is zero. I will look like the dick and maybe I am one. But compare this to my post on your last thread. People have tried to reason with you and you can't be reasoned with. You make very infuriating posts and I don't think they should be banned because they hold a different opinion, I think they should be banned because they are equivalent in action to unintentional bait.  I seriously don't get how you didn't get banned for the DOOM thread because calling an entire demographic kiddie would definitely count as inflammatory in my books. 

Are you actually saying that Mario isn't kiddie? If Mario isn't kiddie, what is? That's not an insult, it is a reality. I even said that I like some kiddie games and that I wasn't insulting anyone. You said "hell." That is a curse word. Look man, I am a nice guy. I don't curse at anyone or insult anyone personally. Not because I can't. I just don't want to. I think the whole Switch thing is going overboard. This latest claim is just so outrageous that it made me angry. But I'm hot hating on any member here. I really would rather get along. 



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niceguygameplayer said:

Where did you get your information that DS was that successful in 5 years?

Switch launch: Q1 2017
23 quarters later: Q4 2022

DS launch: Q4 2004
23 quarters later: Q3 2010

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_sales

DS sales as of Q3 2010: 135.58 million

My mind is sound.

Uh... I never commented on the soundness of your mind...?

I meant that Sony could copy Switch for maximum success, but they don't need to to stop Switch from reaching 130 million. Vita was not a PSP2. Sony did not back it up like PSP. And PSP was very successful at over 80 million sold! Just because Sony did not beat DS doesn't mean that another try would be unsuccessful. 

So you think that Sony could take its current development resources and support two consoles, instead of only supporting PS4 like they are doing right now?



spemanig said:
"Even the PS2 could not match that in only 5 years. The DS and Wii didn't either."

Let me introduce you to the phrase "theres a first time for everything."

That is true, but Nintendo cannot even produce that many. 



People laugh, but this could actually happen. Let's not forget the DS ended up selling more than this, and Switch is also essentially a handheld. Is it likely? No. Possible? Certainly.

I think numbers like these are possible, but over the course of a decade or so, certainly not 5 years. It'd be a tall order for Nintendo to even ship those kind of numbers in 5 years at the rate they're going, let alone sell them.



 

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It's unlikely, but not impossible imo.



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