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Oh my god, this whole NK situation is such a shit show.



                
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Final-Fan said:
Qwark said:

You are talking about the same people who think a logical and fair reaction to Pearl Harbor a military Base was to evaporate hundreds of thousands civilians and little to no millitairy with nukes.

 

Qwark said:

You mean the false report of illegal weapons which where never found when developing MIRVs to destroy entire continents. The last time the US had a good reason to go to war was with Japan and Germany.

Wait, what?  Please explain to me how these two replies make sense with each other. 

I dint think it makes sense or that it is morally justified to nuke civillians. The US had plenty of reason to attack Japan, because of Pearl Harbor. Yet I would never justify killing 250.000 civilians by using nuclear bombs. That was uncalled for and there where plenty of alternatives imaginable. So I dont think the USA is judtified to nuke 15 million North Koreans because a big fatso insults you. Something about barking dogs that don't bite.



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RJ_Sizzle said:
Superman4 said:

LOL at the "The life of the white man will always be much easier than anyone else".  That is a complete BS statement if I’ve ever heard one. It’s not that black people or other nationalities have it harder or are treated unfairly, it’s that they put themselves in the situations to begin with. Yes you have racists but you have racists on all sides. Prison population has less white people because they commit less crimes proportionate to population.

If white people run the governments that make the laws, the court systems, the police, the prisons, and they have fewer people incarcerated in the system proportional to their race, all that tells me is that they're holding all the cards. On top of this, most American blacks' descendants weren't voluntary immigrants to the country, but forced from their lands to slave in new ones. Hell, African-Americans didn't even have full civil rights in this country until the last fifty years or so. Jim Crow laws kept the South segregated for decades and the fallout from that STILL affects the US until today. But, yeah, it's all the minorities' fault. 

The issue is the fact that "minorities" in particular black minorities refuse to let shit go.  So your great great great grandma was a slave, and? How exactly does that affect you today? You literally have the same rights as anyone else.  She didnt, you do. Numerous studies have been done that show how you present yourself plays a HUGE role in how people treat you. Add in how you communicate and I gaurantee a black man in the ghetto wearing a suit and speaking in an educated manor will get the same respect as a white man in the same neighborhood dressed the same way speaking the same way.  Sure cops are on edge in bad neigborhoods and are quicker to shoot, they have reason to be nervous. Im not saying that all police actions are called for or justified either. I happen to be in a 1% "outlaw" club and have had my fair share of run ins with police. They have a pre concieved notion about me because of what I belong to and I have been pulled over for absolutly no reason aside from the patch on my back. Im sure they are expecting some uneducated asshole to start talking to them but instead I am polite and respectful. On a couple occasions I was going well over the speed limit and was given a warning, they even complimented me on my bike. We have evolved to asses threat level based on visual cues, driving a crappy oldsmobile with 26" rims says one of two thing, you dont know how to manage youru money or you are a drug dealer. For me, they asume that I am armed and sell meth. 

You dont go into a job interview with baggy pants a wrinkled shirt and smelling like weed because you are trying to make a good impression on the person interviewing you. Unfortunatly people dont realize that outside of that envirment and cant figure out that maybe they are being treated differently because of how they are presenting themselves.



Qwark said:
Final-Fan said:

 

Wait, what?  Please explain to me how these two replies make sense with each other. 

I dint think it makes sense or that it is morally justified to nuke civillians. The US had plenty of reason to attack Japan, because of Pearl Harbor. Yet I would never justify killing 250.000 civilians by using nuclear bombs. That was uncalled for and there where plenty of alternatives imaginable. So I dont think the USA is judtified to nuke 15 million North Koreans because a big fatso insults you. Something about barking dogs that don't bite.

We wont use Nukes, nor do we need to. 



LadyJasmine said:
IMO Trump likely wants a war as that would make him popular...

I noticed His Poll Numbers have gone back over 40% after the Hurricanes, as he can go around and look all leader like and all.

Trump style is imo best suited for bravado and war so if a war does take place it benefits him politically.

What, how could they improve?

Did people not see that his wife was wearing high heels as she entered the choppa?



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RJ_Sizzle said:
DonFerrari said:

So the black population in today prisons are because of laws that were made obsolete and invalid several decades ago? Yes make sense.

Yes don't go back to slavery because them you would have to explain black people slaving black in Africa, slaving whites and jews in Egypt, german slaving slavishes, greek slaving whites, etc...

Yeah man, because racism was totally over when these laws were abolished. /s

Not to mention that laws for civil rights for minorities were passed without a democratic vote only made racists more hostile and bitter and that's been penting up for years. And no, I'm not going to touch bases on pre-American slavery because it has zero to do with the current racial climate in the US and is just a deflecting strawman.

And the laws of 50 years ago also have little to do with the distribution of races on prison.

Another hint, in Brazil same person for census on prison is considered black and university white.



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Superman4 said:
RJ_Sizzle said:

If white people run the governments that make the laws, the court systems, the police, the prisons, and they have fewer people incarcerated in the system proportional to their race, all that tells me is that they're holding all the cards. On top of this, most American blacks' descendants weren't voluntary immigrants to the country, but forced from their lands to slave in new ones. Hell, African-Americans didn't even have full civil rights in this country until the last fifty years or so. Jim Crow laws kept the South segregated for decades and the fallout from that STILL affects the US until today. But, yeah, it's all the minorities' fault. 

The issue is the fact that "minorities" in particular black minorities refuse to let shit go.  So your great great great grandma was a slave, and? How exactly does that affect you today? You literally have the same rights as anyone else.  She didnt, you do. Numerous studies have been done that show how you present yourself plays a HUGE role in how people treat you. Add in how you communicate and I gaurantee a black man in the ghetto wearing a suit and speaking in an educated manor will get the same respect as a white man in the same neighborhood dressed the same way speaking the same way.  Sure cops are on edge in bad neigborhoods and are quicker to shoot, they have reason to be nervous. Im not saying that all police actions are called for or justified either. I happen to be in a 1% "outlaw" club and have had my fair share of run ins with police. They have a pre concieved notion about me because of what I belong to and I have been pulled over for absolutly no reason aside from the patch on my back. Im sure they are expecting some uneducated asshole to start talking to them but instead I am polite and respectful. On a couple occasions I was going well over the speed limit and was given a warning, they even complimented me on my bike. We have evolved to asses threat level based on visual cues, driving a crappy oldsmobile with 26" rims says one of two thing, you dont know how to manage youru money or you are a drug dealer. For me, they asume that I am armed and sell meth. 

You dont go into a job interview with baggy pants a wrinkled shirt and smelling like weed because you are trying to make a good impression on the person interviewing you. Unfortunatly people dont realize that outside of that envirment and cant figure out that maybe they are being treated differently because of how they are presenting themselves.

It's black minorities that can't let things go, yet we literally have the KKK and Nazi supporters teaming in the streets in defense of civil war memorabilia. Even those on the lesser right. Voting for a president, in their mind, they want to take things back to "how things used to be". Which at no time in American history has there been an axiom of a great era.

What you've just come up with is a defense of profiling. Just because you're compliant with the cops, doesn't mean the experience is the same for minorities. Compliance guarantees nothing. Just look at the cases of Amadou Diallo, Levar Jones and Philando Castle for example. You're basically breaking things to "black people would be treated better if they acted exactly like white people", which is pretty messed up. Because the truth and the history cuts much deeper than that.



DonFerrari said:
RJ_Sizzle said:

Yeah man, because racism was totally over when these laws were abolished. /s

Not to mention that laws for civil rights for minorities were passed without a democratic vote only made racists more hostile and bitter and that's been penting up for years. And no, I'm not going to touch bases on pre-American slavery because it has zero to do with the current racial climate in the US and is just a deflecting strawman.

And the laws of 50 years ago also have little to do with the distribution of races on prison.

Another hint, in Brazil same person for census on prison is considered black and university white.

Another hint, I'm not from Brazil, so I really can't assess on the socio-economics of your country that leads to that kind of division. Just as not being from the USA clouds your view on issues here.





 

 

KLAMarine said:

Who has ever lived both lifetimes to be able to compare the two?

You don't have to live an entire lifetime to understand the differences. 

Okay, who has ever lived as either for a while to be able to compare the two?  



Jumpin said:
KLAMarine said:

Who has ever lived both lifetimes to be able to compare the two?

Michael Jackson.

When I said this years ago, I got banned for it. ;)