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o_O.Q said:
Superman4 said:

We didnt start the Iraq war, we didnt start the Afghanistan war etc. Lybia, Syria, Iraq etc. were all fighting their own battles and murdering people by the thousands. We picked a side. When we were attacked twice at the World Trade Center site we decided to fight back. I dont feel that we need to be involved in a lot of what we are, I dont think that we need to have bases all around the world or supply countries with weapons. We are also not the only ones doing so. N Korea poses a threat to everyone, not just the US. It has already commited an act of war by firing two missles at Japan, how do we know they meant to miss? 

So how did the united states get involved in the wars in iraq, lybia and syria? are you saying those countries were responsible for the world trade attacks?

 

". N Korea poses a threat to everyone, not just the US. It has already commited an act of war by firing two missles at Japan, how do we know they meant to miss? "

 

the united states for the past few decades fired and hit targets in the countries i mentioned above among others... following your logic the united states is a far bigger threat to  any country in the world than north korea right?

 

oh and another thing, the united states is currently involved in a war in syria right? 

 

so if north korea comes along and attacks the u s then that's ok according to your logic right?

Not here to give you a history lesson but NATO was involved in Lybia, not just the US. Iraq invasion should have never happened since we knew that Bin Ladden was in Afghanistan, not Iraq. We used some BS argument about Saddam harboring terrorists and WMDs which was Bullshit. We just wanted to get Saddam out of power.  As for Syria, we didnt start anything there either. We intervened in a civil war because we dont like the syrian leader. Russia does however and is backing him. I dont agree with interfering with that conflict either but it wasnt something that we started. 

As far as Im coincerned N Korea needs to be dealt with. I dont care who does it as long as its done. That little fat dip shit is fucking with the planet and poses a huge risk to the well being of billions, he is not someone who will ever agree to be peacefull with its neighbors. The longer we wait the more lives will be lost in a conflict.



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jason1637 said:
Jumpin said:
Trump is a chicken hawk and a liability. Why haven't you Americans gotten rid of him yet?

Because there he hasn't done anything that is worth impeachment.

forest-spirit said:

Because genocide is fun. Unless you're one of those silly SJW people.

 

 

What's so silly about fighting for social justice?

Because social justice has nothing to do with justice or equality. It is a sales pitch to get naive people to have over power to a select few. 



Mandalore76 said:
Soundwave said:

Trump can't do shit. Even Bannon admitted publically, there is no serious military option for North Korea that makes any sense. 

This is Trump doing his stupid transparent "salesman" posturing where you come in "high" and then negotiate down to a price you want, but geopolitics is not the New York real estate market, Kim isn't some real estate developer trying to sell a bulding on Madison Avenue, he doesn't give a shit about any of this posturing. 

The only thing threatening Kim does is it reinforces NK's belief that they must have nuclear weapons as a detterant. 

A dictator who executes his own uncle and then follows it up with the execution of his uncle's entire family doesn't just acquire weapons "to have as a deterant".

Kim is very intelligent and rational (more than Trump). His goal is to secure his regime and does so with nuclear threatening. He will never use a first strike. Why should he? His country would be attacked and he would loose the power. A war would 100% be started by the USA.

If the USA declares war on NK and China tells them, they have already troops stationed there, what will Trump do? Now he has to maje the choice wether to declare war on China or back off.



Remember when Hillary was gonna start WW3 cause she wanted to keep strict sanctions on Russia? xD

The irony...





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DonFerrari said:
Machiavellian said:
Personally, I have nothing wrong with the one statement that we will retaliate with everything we got if NK decides to escalate things any further. This point I totally agree with Trump. My problem as always with Trump is that when speaking to groups of nations he has to use stupid belittling language like Rocket Man, we really do not need the grade school name calling. It makes him look simple when presenting something very serious and dangerous when he resort to that type of language.

You know that probably one of the reasons he got ellect is because he talks without subterfuge or using difficult words to mean the same? It is very idiotic when two politicians do namecalling and personal attacks using words of false respect.

I totally agree he probably got elected because of grade school language.  That says alot about America more than it does Trump.  You basically using words that any 5 grader should know is not difficult or subterfuge.  When you are in your preteens and teens you insult people this way because thats what everyone does but at some point you grow up.  In a position of power that effect billions, you learn that someone your enemy can easily become your ally and treating people with respect but still be firm in your position is what separate a leader from the average bum off the street.  As you say if politicians go down the namecalling, personal attacks route discourse becomes harder and it takes us closure instead of futher from a solution that does not involve war.



Machiavellian said:
DonFerrari said:

You know that probably one of the reasons he got ellect is because he talks without subterfuge or using difficult words to mean the same? It is very idiotic when two politicians do namecalling and personal attacks using words of false respect.

I totally agree he probably got elected because of grade school language.  That says alot about America more than it does Trump.  You basically using words that any 5 grader should know is not difficult or subterfuge.  When you are in your preteens and teens you insult people this way because thats what everyone does but at some point you grow up.  In a position of power that effect billions, you learn that someone your enemy can easily become your ally and treating people with respect but still be firm in your position is what separate a leader from the average bum off the street.  As you say if politicians go down the namecalling, personal attacks route discourse becomes harder and it takes us closure instead of futher from a solution that does not involve war.

Threating someone with respect is all good, but not everyone deserves it. But case in point I was saying that using direct language instead of using high level language when the intent is the same, agression and etc to me is the same. As a writter I care a lot about the language and usage, but as a person I value the actions and intentions far more than the words used, so on politics I get nauseated with all the hidden insults in all the polite language used.



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Machiavellian said:
DonFerrari said:

You know that probably one of the reasons he got ellect is because he talks without subterfuge or using difficult words to mean the same? It is very idiotic when two politicians do namecalling and personal attacks using words of false respect.

I totally agree he probably got elected because of grade school language.  That says alot about America more than it does Trump.  You basically using words that any 5 grader should know is not difficult or subterfuge.  When you are in your preteens and teens you insult people this way because thats what everyone does but at some point you grow up.  In a position of power that effect billions, you learn that someone your enemy can easily become your ally and treating people with respect but still be firm in your position is what separate a leader from the average bum off the street.  As you say if politicians go down the namecalling, personal attacks route discourse becomes harder and it takes us closure instead of futher from a solution that does not involve war.

While I agree to some extent you have to look at history. How many Presidents have treated N Korea with white gloves? We pulled out weapons and agreed to pull out more for more cooperation. We gave Humanitarian aid which was diverted to Kims personal pockets and his missle programs. N Korea has skirted around sanctions for over a decade and shows no sign that they are willing to play ball with anyone. Without Nukes everyone leaves them alone and he has the chance to make his country great, instead he chooses to continue down the nuke path and pretty much gaurantee his demise. Nobody wants him to have nukes or build his military any more. I think China is starting to realize the more power he has the worse it is for them.



StarOcean said:
Aeolus451 said:

I should have specified what I meant with that. I wasn't really talking about the education part of your comment but rather you posting in political threads.

Keep in mind, this console war is pretty boring. Sony clearly won. So, to me, there's not much to discuss about that side of the site unless we're talkin' Switch potential or Pokemon/Mario/Zelda news. Or to defend Dragon Quest series from ignorant people e.e So besides those things, politics is the only thing to discuss at the moment. To be honest, once Trump is out... I'll probably lose most interest in politics again... unless Americans are dumb enough to elect Kanye West... which would make even Trump look smart...

if you're gonna keep posting in political threads then you should ease up on being as nasty about trump supporters. It's like you're driving a tank on thin ice. If you want to show your disdain for them by all means have at it but don't do it so strongly because 1) you could get banned for it and 2) there's trump voters on this forum. I'm one of them to be honest.



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