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PSP3 / Vita 2

Never ever 121 54.50%
 
Meh 32 14.41%
 
Long ways off 41 18.47%
 
Sooner than expected! 28 12.61%
 
Total:222
Turkish said:
Mnementh said:

It's true that Sony is more successful in europe. But that is because of better marketing, better brand value. Microsoft could build that, although it will take time and resources. Japan is another matter, they seemingly prefer japanese companies.

For the digital stuff: I'm not even sure your PS4-purchases will work on PS5. If not it doesn't matter. If it does - well BC never had much impact, that's why most companies neglected it. We talk about old games. People will look out for the new games. Sure, BC is nice, but it will not decide the console race.

I agree that the games are most important. And Sony has goodfirst party and good connection to 3rd-parties. For MS to compete they must grow in this department.

And the power difference: I think you underestimate the gap between mobile tech and home console tech. Switch has the advantage to release mid-gen. That makes the difference look smaller. But if a hybrid and a home console are released alongside each other I expect to see the difference more clearly.

It's not just Europe tho, anywhere you go from the middle east to south east asia PS is king. MS has had more than enough time to build things, both brand value and 1st party, it's been 16 years since they entered, actually longer than Sega was in the game. If they haven't until now, they never will.

I think PS4 BC is a given due to the architecture, it's not needed to make the PS5 win the race but it'd be a minimal effort to enable.

I dont expect the PS5 Portable to release alongside the PS5, more like a mid gen launch.

Well, for Rest of the World and even parts of europe it is more than just branding: Sony has better representation. Nintendo and MS both have small hardware businesses. It is not much more than their consoles. To build up a headquarter in a smaller country is expensive, and brings not much profit. Sony not only sells consoles, but pretty much everything in electronics. Setting up a headquarter in a smaller country is profiting them more than only in console business. They can buold retailer-relations for their complete portfolio, not just consoles. This means for many smaller countries: you can buy a PS4 in the next electronics-retailer while you have to import a Switch or Xbox. So there is another advantage. That is also the reason many companies target first the US: that is a homogenous market that is big and targets customers with relatively high wealth.

I agree that Sony will it have easy to win against MS with PS5 with little effort, because most stuff is on their side: europe and rest of the world, brand image, first party games, good 3rd-party relations, japan. But they should not experiment too much. That might put them at risk.



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NoCtiS_NoX said:
Mnementh said:

I don't see it. Sony and MS have attracted a userbase that looks out for the next jump in power. And they can live good with that (well Sony can, I can see MS is more experimental or drops out). Making a hybrid PS5 would be a massive risk for Sony: what if MS puts out a powerful machine and takes over all the fans of the PS system that like this power.

Also I think Nintendo was in a good position to switch to the hybrid. First of all the WiiU wasn't extremely powerful. So they were able to get affordable mobile tech that could match the power of the WiiU. Secondly they released mid-gen. So the mobile tech they could offer is not too much of a stepdown from PS4 and XB1. I can see that with release of PS5 Switch loses multiplats shared with that platform. It still could be the case that Switch by then has big enough a userbase for 3rd-parties to support it with exclusives though.

Sony cannot do this. Mid-gen would mean they wait until the time of PS4 is long over. They have to release earlier. And then they could be in trouble creating a handheld that wields more power than the PS4.

The other possibility could be a hybrid alongside the PS5. But the same problem I see coming for the Switch: while at the moment multiplats are possible (see Doom), it will probably be impossible with the PS5 power-level. So a PS4-level hybrid will not get the new games, it will not have the Nintendo-exclusives and probably will not get much Sony exclusives (like the Vita). Even if it is successful, it will nibble at the markets of the outgoing PS4 and the coming PS5. This scenario offers problems on every angle.

No I think Sony is better off differentiating themself from Nintendo hybrids by creating a really powerful machine, supporting VR. If they make it really powerful, even a mid-gen release of Switch 2 might not be able to bring enough power to catch multiplats shared with PS5. Nintendo in that case has more to bank on their exclusives and might actually be in a much more difficult situation. While Sony offfers the 'WOW'-tech.

I can see it coming because that will be our future. As Turkish suggested. There could be other system. A dedicated and a hybrid. A normal PS5 and a Hybrid. 
I will not see any problem if both runs on the same architecture. One is just more powerful.  The ability to play Uncharted,  Horizon, God of War and Last of Us at home and outside. As for that 2-3 years from now do you think there won't be a stronger processor and Smaller but powerful rams?

Dedicated Console will died out in the future. Its best if they do it with PS5 or if they want to experiment then they could do it with PS4P first. 
They can be still different even if their console is a Hybrid. What if they integrated a tablet feature in their hybrid where it can play the games on Android devices. 

It seems like a no brainer at the moment, because Switch is successful. But it might only be because of it hitting the right niche. I can see slow down Switch sales if a more powerful PS5 is released, that offers more WOW. At the moment Switch feels like offering nearly the same experience as home consoles.

A home and hybrid PS5 alongside each other, sharing library is full of problems. The hybrid-version might limit the home version: disk space, graphical prowess etc. Alone the format: a mobile device probably will not use optical media (which is very problematic on the go). So it is more likely, the hybrid will get own versions: smaller in size, smaller power preferences. But that is the Vita situation all over again, the Vita got the little brother version of home console games, and gamers did not like it.

Switch has the real advantage of not having a home console pendant to compare to.



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well, first off: trying to use the ps4 architecture as it is on a portable is nigh impossible. lets get that out of the way. all the games will need to be a port no matter hoe they try. a PS5P mid gen at 2023 is a different matter entirely, though, as many said, just HAAVING a portable HW version can cause problems with disk space and stuff cause apparently only nintendo cares about advancing compression tech.
and while it is true that the switch looks strong because the ps4 is old, by the time ps5 rolls around ninty will have a switch + that may be powerful enough to brute force ps4 games so there is that, especially since the ps4 will be sticking around. I mean, look at how long ps3 stuck. it just got a big game dual realese this year in persona 5.



If it is, it'll be the first time in almost 20 years that the big three release hardware that I don't buy. It would have to do something pretty amazing to get my attention these days.



I think even when the great war for precious resources has begun and the US is an irradiated wasteland in the not so far future, people still gonna open PS V2 threads asking "ey guyz, whatduya think?"



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To me the state of the Vita is almost perfect.
1) Lots of Indie titles
2) Tons of classic ps1/ps2 & psp titles
3) PS4 Remote play

In order for the ps Vita to make a huge leap in sales, Sony needs to make the decision to commit to at least 4 AAA titles per year.
1) New GTA Vita title
2) New Metal Gear Title for Vita only
3) New God Of War Vita title &
4) New Final Fantasy Vita title.

Compile this with the already slew of Indie titles, and the Vita will rise like the Sun in the sky.



sabastian said:
To me the state of the Vita is almost perfect.
1) Lots of Indie titles
2) Tons of classic ps1/ps2 & psp titles
3) PS4 Remote play

In order for the ps Vita to make a huge leap in sales, Sony needs to make the decision to commit to at least 4 AAA titles per year.
1) New GTA Vita title
2) New Metal Gear Title for Vita only
3) New God Of War Vita title &
4) New Final Fantasy Vita title.

Compile this with the already slew of Indie titles, and the Vita will rise like the Sun in the sky.

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I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

They need a good handheld. The Psp was excellent Vita they dropped the ball.

Psp4k would be neat



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If Sony had fought for the Vita I could see them wanting to try again with a PSP3 but since they gave up on the Vita pretty quickly I'm almost certain they won't bother with a successor.



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