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How long util Switch exceeds "X1 family" in sales.

2 years!!! Switch for the... 177 27.79%
 
3 years, strong sales. be... 202 31.71%
 
4 years. It's hard, but ... 134 21.04%
 
5 years, or more. X1 sale... 49 7.69%
 
Never. Ya can't beat &q... 75 11.77%
 
Total:637

At this rate, the Switch should pass it up in about 3-5 years depending on how the XB1X helps things.



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StarDoor said:
Azzanation said:

Well thats good. No i stopped playing Pokemon at Gold. 

What your telling me is that the new edition to Pokemon wont be hitting the 3DS? Becasue why do i have a feeling that it is also coming to 3DS. Nintendo dont seem like they want the 3DS to die.

The last Pokémon games to release on 3DS will be Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, which release this November. At E3, Game Freak separately announced that the next generation of Pokémon games will be for Nintendo Switch, which is in line with what they've always done. They have no reason to continue making games for 3DS; with four sets of games, the Pokémon audience is already tapped out.

Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon aren't even the worst offenders with Pokémon games being released on hardware that already has a successor. Black 2 and White 2 were relased on DS in June 2012, one year and four months after 3DS released.

I havent touched a Pokemon game since Gold and really enjoyed Blue however i couldnt get into Diamond. I might just have to pick up the next gen Pokemon game if its only on Switch as i have been looking for a reason to get back into the franchise. Hopefully its just not another rehash of Sun and Moon. I want to see some serious Switch power in the next Pokemon game. 



Xbox as a brand isn't as popular in Europe or Japan. While Nintendo has usually performed well in all three regions (as far as steady sales go) I see it surpassing X1 family in 3-4 years. Maybe less if they ramp up production (which they have in the past few months).



Azzanation said:

 

Yes system sellers, and Sea of thieves can easiely be a system seller. Pokemon will sell Switches and will boost Switch sales, i am not denying that however to think Xbox dont have there own system sellers is .. odd..

The bald had me laugh in real time. Sorry what are you saying? What rule book says that a game can no longer outsell its previous game because of.. unknown reasons? You actually saying Halo 6 will sell less than Halo 5? Are you actrually being serious? How did Halo 4 outsell Halo 1 and 2 than? Wasnt 4 the start of the decline.. So GT Sport on PS4 wont outsell GT6? wtf.. haha

Remember you are talking to someone who games on a Switch and i want to see the Switch succeed, its a great peice of hardware.

I hardly, HARDLY think Sea of Thieves will be a system seller. The game isnt even exclusive to the Xbox One.

There is no rule book, we are talking predictions. I predict that seeing how since Halo 4 the franchise has been on a popularity decline, selling less with each game (Halo 3 sold more than 4, Halo 4 sold more than 5, Halo Wars 1 sold more than Halo Wars 2), i say that Halo 6 will sell less than Halo 5. That is my final prediction.

What does GT Sport have to do with the topic at hand?

P.D. Yes, im being serious.



ThisGuyFooks said:
Azzanation said:

Yes system sellers, and Sea of thieves can easiely be a system seller. Pokemon will sell Switches and will boost Switch sales, i am not denying that however to think Xbox dont have there own system sellers is .. odd..

The bald had me laugh in real time. Sorry what are you saying? What rule book says that a game can no longer outsell its previous game because of.. unknown reasons? You actually saying Halo 6 will sell less than Halo 5? Are you actrually being serious? How did Halo 4 outsell Halo 1 and 2 than? Wasnt 4 the start of the decline.. So GT Sport on PS4 wont outsell GT6? wtf.. haha

Remember you are talking to someone who games on a Switch and i want to see the Switch succeed, its a great peice of hardware.

I hardly, HARDLY think Sea of Thieves will be a system seller. The game isnt even exclusive to the Xbox One.

There is no rule book, we are talking predictions. I predict that seeing how since Halo 4 the franchise has been on a popularity decline, selling less with each game (Halo 3 sold more than 4, Halo 4 sold more than 5, Halo Wars 1 sold more than Halo Wars 2), i say that Halo 6 will sell less than Halo 5. That is my final prediction.

What does GT Sport have to do with the topic at hand?

P.D. Yes, im being serious.

Your mistake is you are counting Halo Wars as mainline Halo games.. Do you want to compare Spartan Assaults and Spartan Strike aswell? Haha honestly it makes no sense. Halo 4 is the 3rd best selling Halo game, and there has only been one mainline Halo game since 4. So 6 has the same fate as 5? Ouch.  

GT falls in the exact same catagory as Halo and its my example to you, i am seeing if your vision sees the same results for a franchise which is also in decline. GT6 sold as much as Halo 5 did and was consideriably down on GT5 while GT5 was down on GT4 and GT4 was down on GT3 etc. See my point yet? In your eyes GTS will sell less than GT6 because of decline. Am i right?



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Azzanation said:
ThisGuyFooks said:

I hardly, HARDLY think Sea of Thieves will be a system seller. The game isnt even exclusive to the Xbox One.

There is no rule book, we are talking predictions. I predict that seeing how since Halo 4 the franchise has been on a popularity decline, selling less with each game (Halo 3 sold more than 4, Halo 4 sold more than 5, Halo Wars 1 sold more than Halo Wars 2), i say that Halo 6 will sell less than Halo 5. That is my final prediction.

What does GT Sport have to do with the topic at hand?

P.D. Yes, im being serious.

Your mistake is you are counting Halo Wars as mainline Halo games.. Do you want to compare Spartan Assaults and Spartan Strike aswell? Haha honestly it makes no sense. Halo 4 is the 3rd best selling Halo game, and there has only been one mainline Halo game since 4. So 6 has the same fate as 5? Ouch.  

GT falls in the exact same catagory as Halo, i am seeing if your vision sees the same results for a franchise which is also in decline. GT6 sold as much as Halo 5 did and was consideriably down on GT5 while GT5 was down on GT4 and GT4 was down on GT3 etc. See my point yet? In your eyes GTS will sell less than GT6 because of decline. Am i right?

He was pointing out that every Halo title since 4 has sold less than the previous title. Just because Halo Wars isn't a main title doesn't mean it isn't also an indicator of Halo's decline.



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Azzanation said:

 

Your mistake is you are counting Halo Wars as a mainline Halo game.. Do you want to compare Spartan Assaults and Spartan Strike aswell? Haha honestly it makes no sense. Halo 4 is the 3rd best selling Halo game, and there has only been one mainline Halo game since 4. So 6 has the same fate as 5? Ouch.  

GT falls in the exact same catagory as Halo, i am seeing if your vision sees the same results for a franchise which is also in decline. GT6 sold as much as Halo 5 did and was consideriably down on GT5 while GT5 was down on GT4 and GT4 was down on GT3 etc. See my point yet? In your eyes GTS will sell less than GT6 because of decline. Am i right?

They are called sales tendencies, which can be applied to any game.

Like i said:

Halo 5 sold less than Halo 4.

Halo 4 sold less than Halo 3.

Halo Wars 2 sold less than Halo Wars 1.

The series is on a factual sales decline, wether you want to accept it or not.

The Halo franchise is less popular than before, sales prove that.

Your fanatism is clouding your real world perspective, but we are talking about numbers, and numbers dont lie.



Azzanation said:
ThisGuyFooks said:

Did you just compared Pokemon to Sea of Thieves when it comes to selling systems? Wow...

Did you forget Microsoft already played the Halo Card with Halo 5?

Im sorry, but did you really compared Pokemon to Sea of Thieves?!

IMO the Xbox One family will remain at No. 3 (Or No. 4 if we are counting the 3DS), so obviously how long will depend on how fast the gap will grow month after month.

You limit your mind to just thinking games wont sell unless they have a huge brand name attach to them. How do you know Sea of thieves wont become the next big thing? With the amount of beta testers the results are extremly positive plus its targeted towards the MMO crowd which can be huge if successful. No Sea of thieves isnt as popular as Pokemon (Putting words in my mouth) and SoT hasnt released yet and Pokemon might be still a 3DS game which will probably eat up most of the Switchs sales. Nintendo need to make Pokemon Exclusive to Switch which i daubt due to the heavy Pokemon numbers the 3DS dishes out. 

Whats your point about Halo 5? We are talking about Halo 6 not 5. Hows that crystal ball going? I want to look in it aswell.

My post is about there ammuition, Nintendo have Pokemon and Metroid as there big hitters and MS have Halo 6 and Sea of thieves as theres. We are talking generating sales not which exclusive is bigger than the other. Xbox will surely get a boost of sales when those two games come out so will the Switch.

Sea of Thieves can become the next big thing. But it still haven't.

The possibility of a continuation on the same HW gen to generate more HW sales is nill.

You talk about the other having a crystal ball, but you are the one pretending Halo 6 and SoT will make X1 sell gangbusters.

Comparing Pokemon, Mario and Metroid on their first appearence on the HW to Halo "yearly endeavor" and SoT, to say both cases have similar HW pushing capabilities is preposterous.

On games giving a boost to HW you could say that about any game because most likely someone is buying the console with some new game released even if the game itself sells only 100k.



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Like 2 years, if the things stay as they are. But there may be some wild cards on the horizon, so, we will see...



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ThisGuyFooks said:
Azzanation said:

Your mistake is you are counting Halo Wars as a mainline Halo game.. Do you want to compare Spartan Assaults and Spartan Strike aswell? Haha honestly it makes no sense. Halo 4 is the 3rd best selling Halo game, and there has only been one mainline Halo game since 4. So 6 has the same fate as 5? Ouch.  

GT falls in the exact same catagory as Halo, i am seeing if your vision sees the same results for a franchise which is also in decline. GT6 sold as much as Halo 5 did and was consideriably down on GT5 while GT5 was down on GT4 and GT4 was down on GT3 etc. See my point yet? In your eyes GTS will sell less than GT6 because of decline. Am i right?

They are called sales tendencies, which can be applied to any game.

Like i said:

Halo 5 sold less than Halo 4.

Halo 4 sold less than Halo 3.

Halo Wars 2 sold less than Halo Wars 1.

The series is on a factual sales decline, wether you want to accept it or not.

The Halo franchise is less popular than before, sales prove that.

Your fanatism is clouding your real world perspective, but we are talking about numbers, and numbers dont lie.

Yet you choose to ignore that 4 is also the 3rd best selling Halo game in history.. the game that is on decline? how does that work with your formula? You basically put a full stop on a franchise because of 1 game failuring to sell extremly well? And Halo Wars was never a good seller even on the 360 with the very first game and its marketed towards a completely different audience which is niche on consoles. 

Developers can change sales, they can aim high, they can market there games better, they can change or add new features to a game to have it sell better than its predecessor. However you seem to think because Halo 5 and Halo Wars 2 failed to outsell there last entries its game over for the franchise and that Halo 6 and Halo Wars 3 is nothing more than a mediocre selling game and no longer mean anything?

Glad that is your opinion not mine.